Parker Hale

[finnbear270]

Just had a mate round with his new to him,......Parker - Hale .270Win, serial no S *****, Recoil lug has K 5 on it, barrel only has the usual 19 tons per inch & a repeat of the calibre wording, & just a small circle with an illegible mark within it, stock is a nice piece of wood, oil finished not glossy muck, with an interesting fore end shape a flat sharp edged palm swell, chequered, & a buffalo head & a bit of decoration embossed on the floorplate cover, any ideas Kev???

 

[Brithunter]

Do you mean this shape forestock by any chance:-

The head is a Rams head. If it's like that then it's a 1100 Deluxe. If not Photos would help .

 

[finnbear270]

That's the one Kev!, don't know why I said Buffalo! , think he paid £60.00 for it, loaned him some primed sized brass & a seater die, with a bag of Remmy 130 grain soft point flat base to try her out, he has some N160 lying around so he should be good to go later!

 

[Brithunter]

That's the one Kev!, don't know why I said Buffalo! , think he paid £60.00 for it, loaned him some primed sized brass & a seater die, with a bag of Remmy 130 grain soft point flat base to try her out, he has some N160 lying around so he should be good to go later!

think he paid £60.00 for it Stop Thief................and tell him I hate him .

 

[matt_hooks]

Hmmm. I have the exact same rifle, in .243 Win, just missing the engraving on the magazine floor plate, which is completely plain on my rifle. Any ideas as to what model she is? I'm thinking maybe a model 1100 lightweight?

I paid £200 including 20 rounds of 100gr RWS soft tip, and she shoots most sweetly, I'm very chuffed as it's my first cf rifle. I'm thinking of getting her screw cut for a mod, how do they do when moderated?

 

[flytie]

I am going to use this thread, which i had forgottton, as an excuse to post the pictures of my M.81 Classic P-H (again!).


I have the new mounts & rings (weaver and the 7x50 S&B) fitted, I should pick up the ammunition and cleaning gear tomorrow, then I can see how she shoots!!

Then I will take it apart, steam out the small knocks, and re-finish the stock with a traditional oil finish.

ft

 

[ezzy6.5]

Flytie,
Thats a pretty rifle, i used to have one in .308 but it didn't have quite as well figured wood on it. funilly enough i bought it from F.A Anderson at a game fair about 12 years ago and it came with a lovely little Weaver 3-9x40. I wish i new what happened to it, it was a sweet shooting little rifle.
Regards, Ezzy

 

[Brithunter]

Hmmm. I have the exact same rifle, in .243 Win, just missing the engraving on the magazine floor plate, which is completely plain on my rifle. Any ideas as to what model she is? I'm thinking maybe a model 1100 lightweight?

I paid £200 including 20 rounds of 100gr RWS soft tip, and she shoots most sweetly, I'm very chuffed as it's my first cf rifle. I'm thinking of getting her screw cut for a mod, how do they do when moderated?

Nope it's an 1100 deluxe as the 1100 Lwt looks like this:-

This is after the chipped factory finish was removed and an oiled one applied hence the lighter colour.

I have a 1200 V with the smooth floor plate and the 1100 Lwt has one. The floor pates seem to vary embossed or not with year and not model. This si just my observation and not a proven fact by published means. i.e Parker-Hale catalogues.

In my view it would be a shame to have the foresight ramp removed and the barrel cut. but it's your rifle so .

 

[Bashing Bambi]

Do you mean this shape forestock by any chance:-

The head is a Rams head. If it's like that then it's a 1100 Deluxe. If not Photos would help .

Kev I have a stock like that with a 7.62mm Mauser in it. The owner wants to sawp the stock later, any point in asking him for it? It has the same floorplate!
I also was given for a commission sale an M81 in 7x57 with a great Zeiss scope on it. Shoots really well, in fact if I can raise the money I'm keeping it as I sold my Rigby this year and need a 7mm. That said its not as comfortable to shoot as the Rigby was!

 

[Brithunter]

I would take the stock off an examine the proof marks and view mark as it's possible that he has a Parker-Hale from a special export order. The barrels are usually marked still witht he P-H name but I can see where not having the barrel so marked might be of benefit to the company depending on where the order was going.

Although my 1200 Super is so marked on the barrel the calibre is marked as 7.92mm and not 8x57mm as one would expect. The rumour was that these were over-runs from a special export order. How true this is is one thing we will probaby never know.

Now as for swopping the stock well depending on who made the action there might be slight inlettign differences. Nothign that a little work opening it up ro bedding it with compound if too large would not care of. So far I have never seen another company using this style fo stock but that's not to say that someone didn't buy a stock and fit it to a sporterised Mauser. Further investigation would help eliminate or prove this idea.

The M81 sounds nice. Sadly I didn't go for the one I should of some years back as it was almost new and it too was a 7mm but a 7mm Rem mag. Something I regret now.

 

[ecoman]

'Just dotted in and out of this thread for the moment as I have a firewood surge on - snow !

My Parker Hale was a Safari with the forward or leading end of the forend cut in a downwards wedge shape. It was a .243 and very accurate with the Norma of that era. (Some 15 years -worth of ammo stability ).

I sawed off the leading end of the stock so that it curved back towards me - giving a more streamlined look and preventing herbage getting thrust up between the barrel and stock during crawling. I also removed the laquer which invited cracking and water ingress and oiled the stock instead; AND because we had to endure a lot of wet, I free-floated the barrel as the forend had moved a bit to one side and was showing contact staining.

Pure sacrilege I know, but it was a practical move and it worked.

I then stripped the trigger mechanism and stoned it down to about 2 lbs with a 'breaking glass' pull as the trigger, when I was handed the rifle for my use had a pull which felt like hauling a sack over a barbed wire fence.

Those cold hammer-forged barrels were guaranteed to give 2" grouping at 100 yards , but mine - and it's sister which was used by my head stalker at the time, gave inch groups and better. With DWM roundnose ammo it gave clover-leaf groups - as it did with my later home loads with the 105 grain round-nose Speer. (Soft points).

Lovely little rifles to use after they were given a bit of TLC and finishing.

 

[Serky]

I just bought parker hale safari .308, getting send to my local RFD next week. it ticks all the boxes for me from look to budget, not sure about accuracy but time will tell. I think they are beautiful rifles, mine is synthetic which I didn't think they come in synthetic, perhaps people who knows more about history of parker hale might know when synthetic introduced.

 

[devonoak]

Slightly off topic but related.... I have a question for Brithunter who despite your claims of innocence do in fact appear to know "quite a bit" about english sporting rifles. My friend has a rifle in .30-06 which, when I glanced at it, said, oh, a parker hale, but in fact it is marked "Firearms co." and "Alpine". The stock looks very P-H but as I understand it they bought these in. All I have been able to glean is that this was a Bridgewater company who made sporting rifles from ex military mauser actions. Can you shed any more light on this Brit?
Many thanks

 

[Brithunter]

I had seen a reference to them on an American forum and it seems like the "Whitworth" rifles were for export mainly. The Pakre-Hale stocks were made for them by SILE of Italy who also supplied the later BSA stocks. I am assuming that the Alpine was the Model and Firearms Co the maker?

 

[devonoak]

I had seen a reference to them on an American forum and it seems like the "Whitworth" rifles were for export mainly. The Pakre-Hale stocks were made for them by SILE of Italy who also supplied the later BSA stocks. I am assuming that the Alpine was the Model and Firearms Co the maker?

Yes I think thats a correct assumption although it is not that clear on the barrel. The stock is very reminiscent of those '70s p-h stocks with the sort of reverse angle at the forend. A good old rifle though. Thanks

 

[Brithunter]

I just bought parker hale safari .308, getting send to my local RFD next week. it ticks all the boxes for me from look to budget, not sure about accuracy but time will tell. I think they are beautiful rifles, mine is synthetic which I didn't think they come in synthetic, perhaps people who knows more about history of parker hale might know when synthetic introduced.

Hmmm I have never seen any synthetic stocked Parker-Hale's except for the M-85 Sniper rifle and not even Gibbs who produced some dodgy P-H rifles offered a synthetic that I am aware of so I would gues it's an aftermarket and as the receiver after all on the Parker-Hale's is a M98 type there is a wide choise of plastic stocks offered in all sort so quality's and styles..

 

[Rake Aboot]

Aye

I have a P&H 1200 Safari deluxe in .243. Absoloutely love it, got rid of a Tika T3 to get it and am more than happy. Had it screwcut for the P8 (had to shave the forestock a wee tad) Shoots every bit as good as the Tika (or any other CF I`ve tried) Paid £160 for it and when it arrived I could not believe how good it looked.

At the mo I have an adjustable butt pad on it but if anyone knows where I can get an original butt pad I would love to get one for it.

Great guns and a bit of a secret bargain.

ATB

 

[Maverick61]

I have a Parker Hale 1200C 'Scout' in .308 that I've owned from new for nearly 25 years & it's the one I reach for most often when going out stalking despite owning Tikka's & Steyr Mannlichers as well. It's strong, functional, reliable & mine has put more deer in my freezer than I care to remember. For the price they are very hard to beat. Only niggle is that replacement stocks can be hard to find if the original doesn't suit you or gets damaged, but hey mine's not broken so I don't plan to fix it!

 

[mereside]

maverick there are plenty of stocks on evilbay usa but not sure if they are easy shippable i did talk to one company that was willing to give it a go but i stripped mine down and was really nice underneath so didnt bother trying,atb wayne

 

[Lakey]

I shoot a Parker Hale 1100 deluxe in .243, and a Parker Hale Midland in .3006. Both rifles shoot to 1.25" at 100 yds and both have killed a lot of deer over the 15 years or more that I have had them. I recommend Parker Hale rifles to anyone who will listen. They are very good basic rifles, that sadly are out of fashion at the moment with quite a few stalkers. Holts features Parker Hale rifles in most of its sales and rarely do they make much more than £150 each. I have yet to encounter one which is shot out, and they do the job without the razzamatazz of other more modern rifles, They have a quality which would be impossible to produce these days without an £800 price tag. Steel along is superb quality.

I cannot recommend these rifles highly enough. When I turn up at range days, you always get a few snide comments about"Shame he's only got a Parker Hale" or "Brit Crap" etc etc, but most people shut up when they see how accurate they are. Shame that the yuppie stalkers dont rate them, as they rubbish them without knowing anything about them.

Lakey