Greta Thumberg Schools UN on Extinction

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As i am of jewish decent (Father Jewish by birth grandmother escaped Nazi germany, most of my ancestors didnt) I think people would realy struggle to lable me as antisimtic

All sorts of conspiracy theories surround the Bilderberg Group with very good reasion. I have often thaught they themselves make some of them up so as to make the real issues seem redicilious.

One thing is for sure, the great and powerful who meet in secret with the Bilderberg group are not there for the food and pleasant conversation.

Theres a massive amount of supporting evidence for the above

Oil was selling at $12 a barrel but only costing $1 to produce.

James Atkins the US Saudi ambassador was the first to stick his head above the parapet and ask why this was the case? Kissinger sacked him

In an interview King Fisal was asked about it and he said he himself asked the Shar of Iran why the oil embargo and hyper inflation? The Shar replied, Ask Kissinger

Nixon himself tried to deal with Opec to cut the cost of oil in 2004 but was cut short by the US banks????

The whole Bloomberg sponsered Oil is running out farse headed up by some incompitent scientist who sugested oil came from rotting dinasors and was a scares camodity that would run out in 2007. Even i remember those headlines

There is absolutely no disputing the fact that a 400% increase in oil was created on a pack of lies. US oil reserves were held back on trumped up claims of "running out" when they knew damned well they had new fields on tap in Alaska Prudhoe site which would produce 25billion barrels a year. Thers also no desputing the rescue of the dollar, the sales of tresury bonds and the investment in arms and monies transferd to Chase Manhattan bank following the price hike.

On his retirement from office Kissinger was made an adviser to Chase Manhatton bank

Documented gifts from the Shah of iran to US officials included, $1,000,000 to the former CIA cheif Allen Dulles $2,000,00 to David Rockafella, Loy henderson US ambasidor to Iran got another $2,000,000 and Time Life magazeen publisher who was an ardent supporter through its various media outlets got $500,000

The Shah of Iran fell out of favor with his people and was eventually evacuated to the USA on the pretext of needing cancer treatment. This move was the work of Rockafella and Kissinger who managed to convince a very reluctent Jimmy Carter to go through with it.

It resulted in the longest ever hostage seage at the US embassy in Iran as the people tried to bring him back to stand trial.

Chase Manhattan Bank froze the Shah's billions so the government of Iran couldn't get them back

It does kind of beg the question as to why we would support the Shah seeing as he caused us so much pain with the oil crisis?

Incredible.
The whole thing's utter tripe, liberally peppered with blatant anti-semitism. I'm not even slightly Jewish and it stinks. Kissinger, Rothschilds. It's complete balls from start to finish. The oil embargo was a pan-Arab policy connected to their war with Israel in 1973, a plan to embargo Western nations in order to compel them to abandon the Jews, I mean Israelis, to another genocide. To pretend the opposite is a really sick conspiracy theory. It had nothing to do with the Bilderberg group - none of them being Arabs, nor Iran which didn't participate.
I'm appalled that you could even consider entertaining this sort of drivel.

Since it's such nonsense, I won't go through much of this alleged "supporting evidence"

The point about the cost of production of oil is entirely spurious and based on a ridiculously basic misunderstanding of how markets work. Oil sells as a function of supply and demand and the cost of production is irrelevant. The oil crisis prices were caused not by profit gouging but by restricting supply.

Did Nixon really try to negotiate with OPEC in 2004? And if he did, on whoso behalf? So what? It was 30 years later.

If the Shah did say "Ask Kissinger" that would be A) because it was Kissinger's job to know, B) because he was a Jew, and C) it was because of US and Western support for Israel. As opposed to condoning another holocaust.

The conspiracy about the oil price is complete crap. The US knew there was lots of oil in Alaska, but had no way of getting it to market until 1977, so it's completely irrelevant to events in 1973-4.

The whole thing is just painfully obviously total bull**** from start to finish. You've even listed a conspiracy that the US supplied arms to a NY bank. This is bat**** stuff.
 
Here was a good idea that I saw in India being used a lot. Saves on all the copper cabling. Independant lamp posts.

but uses,, Li-Ion/LiPO4/Lead Acid/VRLA T-GEL and also some toxic materials and hazardous products used during the manufacturing process of solar
 
But no ongoing fossil burning thereafter, so where were we?
and the disposal? and re manufacture of replacements? and more pollution involved in that process.
it's like some believe you can connect a battery and a generator together in such a fashion as to create perpetual motion.
there will never be a satisfactory answer.
many so called solutions appear at first uninformed glance to be a great idea, and often championed as such, but the penny drops eventually. there is no solution.
everything has a time to die, planets included.
don't waste time thinking ways to resolve unsolvable problems, just get on with life as best you are able to.
 
I noticed today in Abergavenny 'extinction rebellion' posters glued to post office boxes on the highway - who is funding this tribe of degenerates littering the planet ?
I wonder what sort of chemicals will be used to remove and redress this vandalism. Self important pricks.
 
On Sat the bbc 3am world news it was reporting a significant iceberg breaking loose.Not caused by global warming...
On the 4am news the part 'not caused by global warming ' was dropped.
Now whether you believe in gw or not,the beeb continue to shape the news as opposed to reporting it...
 
I noticed today in Abergavenny 'extinction rebellion' posters glued to post office boxes on the highway - who is funding this tribe of degenerates littering the planet ?
I wonder what sort of chemicals will be used to remove and redress this vandalism. Self important pricks.
amongst others george soros, same bloke that allegedly funds gina millar.

 
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and the disposal? and re manufacture of replacements? and more pollution involved in that process.
it's like some believe you can connect a battery and a generator together in such a fashion as to create perpetual motion.
there will never be a satisfactory answer.
many so called solutions appear at first uninformed glance to be a great idea, and often championed as such, but the penny drops eventually. there is no solution.
everything has a time to die, planets included.
don't waste time thinking ways to resolve unsolvable problems, just get on with life as best you are able to.
I do but after designing my whole working life I like to see good ideas, you seem to be always negative to everyones posts why?
 
I do but after designing my whole working life I like to see good ideas, you seem to be always negative to everyones posts why?

really, you obviously don't read all of them, only those that you perceive as negative.
I wasn't aware we all had to like every post or opinion. and are free to agree or disagree. take a good look you will see a reasonable balance.
 
I noticed today in Abergavenny 'extinction rebellion' posters glued to post office boxes on the highway - who is funding this tribe of degenerates littering the planet ?
I wonder what sort of chemicals will be used to remove and redress this vandalism. Self important pricks.
Lot of unemployment in Abergavenny..?
 
Incredible.
The whole thing's utter tripe, liberally peppered with blatant anti-semitism. I'm not even slightly Jewish and it stinks. Kissinger, Rothschilds. It's complete balls from start to finish. The oil embargo was a pan-Arab policy connected to their war with Israel in 1973, a plan to embargo Western nations in order to compel them to abandon the Jews, I mean Israelis, to another genocide. To pretend the opposite is a really sick conspiracy theory. It had nothing to do with the Bilderberg group - none of them being Arabs, nor Iran which didn't participate.
I'm appalled that you could even consider entertaining this sort of drivel.

Since it's such nonsense, I won't go through much of this alleged "supporting evidence"

The point about the cost of production of oil is entirely spurious and based on a ridiculously basic misunderstanding of how markets work. Oil sells as a function of supply and demand and the cost of production is irrelevant. The oil crisis prices were caused not by profit gouging but by restricting supply.

Did Nixon really try to negotiate with OPEC in 2004? And if he did, on whoso behalf? So what? It was 30 years later.

If the Shah did say "Ask Kissinger" that would be A) because it was Kissinger's job to know, B) because he was a Jew, and C) it was because of US and Western support for Israel. As opposed to condoning another holocaust.

The conspiracy about the oil price is complete crap. The US knew there was lots of oil in Alaska, but had no way of getting it to market until 1977, so it's completely irrelevant to events in 1973-4.

The whole thing is just painfully obviously total bull**** from start to finish. You've even listed a conspiracy that the US supplied arms to a NY bank. This is bat**** stuff.


OK got it

It was a total coincidence that the war triggered an oil embargo after US reserves had been deliberately reduced to a low level and the rubbis "peek Oil theory" of the now discredited King Hubbard had been given legs. I beleive Hubbard said wed hit peek oil production in 1975? A combination of thease events suddenly spiked a 400% increase in oil prices which simply by chance, saved the US economy

Peek oil was later revised to 1990 1998 2005 and then 2010. All this with absolutly no scientific support and badded on data provided by the oil industry its self.

It was further massive luck that the UK were allowed to remain neutral so were unaffected by the embargo where as Germany (who stood the posabuility of the Mark becoming the resurve currency of the world) were hit hard despite their attempts to remain neutral

An incredible good fortune that the 400% increase in oil cost made UKs north sea oil cost effective??

And of course anyone who suggests it might not be luck is simply anti semetic?? apparently even the son of a jew whose an atheist and couldn't give a flying f about ANY religion but does have a fair bit of sympathy for the Jews after WW2 and a lot of his ancestors getting gassed in a concentration camp.

You've even listed a conspiracy that the US supplied arms to a NY bank. This is bat**** stuff.

Not sure where that came from? The US supplied arms to both sides of the conflict as the continued to do during many oil wars which were to follow. I have no understanding why they would supply arms to a bank?

"Peek oil Theory" is still be in pushed as a medium for increasing oil prices. The USA are still subduing oil production in Iran and Irack to stop production levels forcing the price down

The fact is the USA sees its only way to maintain control of the world is to control oil. Every conflict and war its been involved in in the oil producing countries has had this ultimate goal

Dick Chainey took over from Kissinger in respect of planning this

By the By is Dick Chaney Jewish? I didnt think he was :D
 
OK got it

It was a total coincidence that the war triggered an oil embargo after US reserves had been deliberately reduced to a low level and the rubbis "peek Oil theory" of the now discredited King Hubbard had been given legs. I beleive Hubbard said wed hit peek oil production in 1975? A combination of thease events suddenly spiked a 400% increase in oil prices which simply by chance, saved the US economy

Peek oil was later revised to 1990 1998 2005 and then 2010. All this with absolutly no scientific support and badded on data provided by the oil industry its self.

It was further massive luck that the UK were allowed to remain neutral so were unaffected by the embargo where as Germany (who stood the posabuility of the Mark becoming the resurve currency of the world) were hit hard despite their attempts to remain neutral

An incredible good fortune that the 400% increase in oil cost made UKs north sea oil cost effective??

And of course anyone who suggests it might not be luck is simply anti semetic?? apparently even the son of a jew whose an atheist and couldn't give a flying f about ANY religion but does have a fair bit of sympathy for the Jews after WW2 and a lot of his ancestors getting gassed in a concentration camp.

You've even listed a conspiracy that the US supplied arms to a NY bank. This is bat**** stuff.

Not sure where that came from? The US supplied arms to both sides of the conflict as the continued to do during many oil wars which were to follow. I have no understanding why they would supply arms to a bank?

"Peek oil Theory" is still be in pushed as a medium for increasing oil prices. The USA are still subduing oil production in Iran and Irack to stop production levels forcing the price down

The fact is the USA sees its only way to maintain control of the world is to control oil. Every conflict and war its been involved in in the oil producing countries has had this ultimate goal

Dick Chainey took over from Kissinger in respect of planning this

By the By is Dick Chaney Jewish? I didnt think he was :D



The thing about conspiracy theories is that if you're that determined to deny the facts, in favour of racist drivel, nothing can change that view.

The stuff you believe Chasey....it's not the case that you've read lots of stuff online and "not a lot of people know that", it's the case that "not a lot of people are credulous enough to believe this". You could learn to distinguish when reading between something that has at least some sort of connection to reality and the online rantings of deranged racists, anarchists, communists and fools.

Because you seem to have such difficulty telling whether the earth is flat or not:

US Reserves: Previously you argued that the problem was exacerbated by the US holding its reserves off the market, now you're arguing that it was because they had run them down - and released them onto the market. I don't follow your argument that the US Government benefitted from being made to look stupid - in the same way as Gordon Brown didn't benefit from selling off UK gold reserves before the price went up.

Peak oil: peak oil theory, if accepted as fact, does not provide a reason for the oil price to rise. It's impossible to do panic buying of oil, and was impossible to store the sort of quantities that the conspiracy theory implies. This point is in such total contradiction to the previous point as to render whole conspiracy to this point complete gibberish.

Of course the accusation that Jewish bankers and politicians, in particular, conspired to damage the world economy to enrich themselves as part of a ridiculous conspiracy theory is anti-Semitic. It's barely two steps away from Mein Kampf.

"You've even listed a conspiracy that the US supplied arms to a NY bank. This is bat**** stuff.

Not sure where that came from? The US supplied arms to both sides of the conflict as the continued to do during many oil wars which were to follow. I have no understanding why they would supply arms to a bank?"

That came from you. You wrote it. I also have no understanding why an absurd accusation that the US Government supplied arms to a bank, demonstrates anything other than the absurdity of the surrounding argument. It's total crap.

The ridiculous idea that the US goes around the world controlling oil for it's own benefit is more complete bull****. Only cretins believe this. It's impossible to demonstrate that the US, as a major oil consumer, profits from situations where the oil price goes through the roof, the US economy goes down and the direct cost of the conflict is greater than the value of the oil at stake. You're just lending oxygen to complete ****ing idiots.

Dick Cheney isn't Jewish, but was on the board of the Jewish Institute for National Security of America, a pro-Israeli think tank. I'd also point out that Dick Cheney and Kissinger never held the same post.

As before, complete nonsense from start to finish.
 
The thing about conspiracy theories is that if you're that determined to deny the facts, in favour of racist drivel, nothing can change that view.

The stuff you believe Chasey....it's not the case that you've read lots of stuff online and "not a lot of people know that", it's the case that "not a lot of people are credulous enough to believe this". You could learn to distinguish when reading between something that has at least some sort of connection to reality and the online rantings of deranged racists, anarchists, communists and fools.

Because you seem to have such difficulty telling whether the earth is flat or not:

US Reserves: Previously you argued that the problem was exacerbated by the US holding its reserves off the market, now you're arguing that it was because they had run them down - and released them onto the market. I don't follow your argument that the US Government benefitted from being made to look stupid - in the same way as Gordon Brown didn't benefit from selling off UK gold reserves before the price went up.

Peak oil: peak oil theory, if accepted as fact, does not provide a reason for the oil price to rise. It's impossible to do panic buying of oil, and was impossible to store the sort of quantities that the conspiracy theory implies. This point is in such total contradiction to the previous point as to render whole conspiracy to this point complete gibberish.

Of course the accusation that Jewish bankers and politicians, in particular, conspired to damage the world economy to enrich themselves as part of a ridiculous conspiracy theory is anti-Semitic. It's barely two steps away from Mein Kampf.

I am reminded of he old psychologists joke

Your in denial
No i am not
See i told you your in denial

Racism doesn't even come into it. I can honestly say i had on idea Kissinger was Jewish until quite recently ?? WTF would I care? I have never once in my life looked at a person and thought, I wonder what religion he is????

It is purely because i wanted to take the issue to its origin (which is where the USA took the dollar off the gold standard then proped it back up with oil) that i even mentioned Kissinger. I could easily have made the same argument with Casey & Bush

I don't for one second believe the Oil wars were solely for the benefit of a Jewish bank?????????? Why would you even suggest that? The Oil wars were, and are still the way the USA has fought connived and cheated its way into world domination through oil
The banks whilst they made huge profits, were simply a tool being used by the USA in its war

For a classic example of this see how the USA government forced a freze in Irans accounts hld in the USA Chase Manatton Bank which inturn resulted the Iran defaulting on its loan payments which due to a contractuual clause allowed Chase bank to recover ALL its losses fronm the frozen account which virtualy bancrupt iran overnight.

They dominate oil pricing by controlling the flow of oil, they dominate whole countries by controlling their supply of oil

QED Oil is critical to the USAs foreign policy

The most recent big war with the bulls""t WMD claims is a prime example

In this instance the oil reserves of Iraq are divided up between the Russians the Chinese and the French. Sadam had put a total ban on Anglo American rights to ANY and ALL oil in Iran. There was also talk of Iraq Oil being traded in Euros not Dollars which would massively impact on the USA.

Remember iraqu held the second larges oil reserves on this planet.

China for the firs time had slipped into a position where it requirement for oil outstripped its ability to supply it. It had become a net importer of oil second only to the USA. In order to combat subservient to USA controlled oil, it sought oil rights with Iraq. Sadam Husain keen to hurt the USA, gave them to China

The USA simply couldn't tolerate this they set up huge oil embargos to prevent Russia France and China using their new found positions on Oil in Iraque then considered its option and concluded war was the only solution. If they could controle the flow of oil to Russia and China, they could control Russia and China.

They created some bullsh@t about WMD which was partially believable due to Sadams use of chemical weapons against the Kurds, flagrantly ignored the UN resolution saying they couldn't invade, and with the help of the UK they invaded Iraq

They then won the war and immediately canceled the Russian, French and Chinese contracts to acquire oil rights and took control of the oil them selves.

They have been controling the flow of oil from Iraq ever since. Limiting it in order to maintain the rediciliously high per barrel cost we now have and to perpetuate the myth that oil is running out


US Reserves: Previously you argued that the problem was exacerbated by the US holding its reserves off the market, now you're arguing that it was because they had run them down - and released them onto the market. I don't follow your argument that the US Government benefited from being made to look stupid - in the same way as Gordon Brown didn't benefit from selling off UK gold reserves before the price went up.

It is 101 market forces. Restrict supply to a high demand market and the price will go up

By limiting and controlling the supply of oil to the market and basically pretending we are close to running out of oil, they have managed to massively increase the price of the commodity

Scars things which are desired are expensive, plentiful things are not. Oil is abundant but still expensive because the supply is controlled in order to keep it that way.


Peak oil: peak oil theory, if accepted as fact, does not provide a reason for the oil price to rise. It's impossible to do panic buying of oil, and was impossible to store the sort of quantities that the conspiracy theory implies. This point is in such total contradiction to the previous point as to render whole conspiracy to this point complete gibberish.

Peek oil theory is total nonsense which was debunked by Russia decades ago. In 2004 Saudis announced Peek oil theory was utter rubbish an if we liked they could double production and guarantee it for another 50 years. A comment made in 2004 I believe which didnt go down well with the USA

Peek oil Theory is the very essence of price rises in oil. Availability v demand. Oil requirements world wide are rising year on year.

In 2006 a year AFTER we were supposed to hit "Peek Production" in one of the many dooms day dates listed by Hubbard and the rest, we were using 85.3million barrels of oil a day

In 2019 we are using 100.6 million barrels per day???????

This\ has fec all to do with religion or anti anything. its cold hard economics.

To believe that the top1% of society arnt manipulating world events for their own benefit is totally naive.

I am no conspiricy nut who wants to bring down the man. I think such people are a joke. This is Darwinism in action and it has my full support.

Just occasionally I feel the desire to point out whats actually going on.
 
Just occasionally I feel the desire to point out whats actually going on.

It's all the intervening periods where you prefer to spout utter bulls**t, that i find harder to understand.

I mean, I presume you're doing it for a laugh, because it's entertaining to sit back and watch people thinking you actually believe it.

When one thinks of this as Darwinism in action, I can only think you mis-heard the principle and think it's about the survival of the thickest. Stop dumbing yourself down.
 
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