Good on you. I'm sure you'll get the right result.
Whatever negative comments you may see regarding DSCL1 there is no question in my mind that to pass is a singular achievement and one you may be proud of.
K
DSC1. Slightly humbled . . . and a good deal wiser!
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Whatever negative comments you may see regarding DSCL1 there is no question in my mind that to pass is a singular achievement and one you may be proud of.
K
You think that’s funny- I never use my bipod apart from zeroing -so on the shooting assessment for the zero I decided to don the bipod, being a compete **** I put it on back to front and couldn’t work out whilst the recoil of my .243 (yes I know ‘243 recoil’) seemed more violent than usual -this shifted my point of aim (id zeroed the week before and was bang on) which I couldn’t work out why until the instructor said might be because your bipods on backwards
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Daft the things we do under "pressure" isn't it, EVEN when we have been doing whatever for ages such that it SHOULD be almost a body muscle memory thing!!?.. But that is what makes us "HUMAN' (as the Missus keeps reminding me)... Ha! Just some of us are WAAAAY more Human than the rest eh?
[emoji1360][emoji482].ATB ....... and shoot safely.
OP's candour is refreshing. I am certain the DSC training material combined with the classroom exchange of information by peers will always impart some new info. Detractors of the DMQ certification are concerned that such schemes might become compulsory. Or worse, they only exist to generate revenue. Excessive certification in any arena is to be avoided and I share some concern there. However, my experience of DSC is that it has valuable content at a reasonable price.
Current numbers of those who have taken DSC 1 & 2 are on the DMQ website. Like Woodsmoke, I would hope that these are all passionate defenders of shooting sports. We need every voice we can muster.
Mine to.
If you consider material, venues, staff, travel etc vs. the cost of taking the DSC1 I don't think anyone is getting rich from it.
Glad you enjoyed it W/S ,thoroughly enjoyed mine at Gloucester with H.M.E and learned so much and met some great people and like yourself despite years of c/f experience the actually range test turned my hands into 2x lefts of 10 thumbs .Luckily he lent me his blaser so i could see how over enginered they were for a simple soul like me 
so my P/H 1200 does the job at a fraction of the price .
Yes 1 day it may be compulsary but i would advise anyone to do it you,l be surprised what you do and dont know and make some great friends atb
so my P/H 1200 does the job at a fraction of the price .Yes 1 day it may be compulsary but i would advise anyone to do it you,l be surprised what you do and dont know and make some great friends atb
sikamalc
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What a refreshing post after all the rubbish spoken about Level 1. Personally I feel that any brand new people coming into the sport should be made to take it. Like most European countries where it is mandatory, the level one test in the UK is fairly easy to go through and pass, and not that expensive really. Not if you compare with countries such as Germany, Holland etc.
Well done for passing though.
hedge hunter
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Plastic doesn't rust
Woodsmoke
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Thanks Malc'
Even as a fairly experienced stalker, I know I certainly benefited from it. I think it would be of incalculable value to people brand new to the sport, but I still can't help feeling a lot of people would find it a real strain on their budget. Having said that, I can now see where the cost come from.
Trouble is, on top of the existing application fee, the cost of booking stalks if they have no access to ground, and with this new idiotic doctors fee issue, some folk are going to find that even obtaining an FAC could potentially now be looking at costing them upwards of £500. And then, of course, they have the additional cost of cabinet, rifle, 'scope, moderator, clothing . . . .
It's a tricky one
I am a huge advocate of training and when I did my DSC1 I learnt a massive amount. Hey, I didn’t even know that there were 6 species of deer. But like the driving test I had a whole lot of knowledge and little experience which I have now build up over the last number of years where I can almost sound like I know what I'm talking about.
Not everybody has access to mates or friends who will teach them how to shoot. And some of the people who I have met who do have 'years of experience', I wouldn’t take out on my land. But isn’t that the same across all walks of life. I know people who have DSC2 and people who were qualified to train divers and I wouldn’t want to do shooting or diving with them, particularly at the same time. .
DSC2 I see as being a confirmation of what I have learnt so I can prove to some landowners my skill level has gone up. Just don’t ask me the name of the mesa, met, those glands. I haven’t done it yet but I will get around to it at some point in the next year or so.
Mainly because it Does open doors, rightly or wrongly, but I does. And if it is going to give me access to a pile of land I would rather have it than not.
it also gives me an excuse to go out with people who are hugely more experienced than me and see what bad habits I have picked up Along the way.
Anyhow, spouted my bit. I'm glad I did it And to be fair, I would have no issue doing it again, because there is loads I have forgotten. But no, it isn’t on my list.
Not everybody has access to mates or friends who will teach them how to shoot. And some of the people who I have met who do have 'years of experience', I wouldn’t take out on my land. But isn’t that the same across all walks of life. I know people who have DSC2 and people who were qualified to train divers and I wouldn’t want to do shooting or diving with them, particularly at the same time.
.DSC2 I see as being a confirmation of what I have learnt so I can prove to some landowners my skill level has gone up. Just don’t ask me the name of the mesa, met, those glands. I haven’t done it yet but I will get around to it at some point in the next year or so.
Mainly because it Does open doors, rightly or wrongly, but I does. And if it is going to give me access to a pile of land I would rather have it than not.
it also gives me an excuse to go out with people who are hugely more experienced than me and see what bad habits I have picked up Along the way.
Anyhow, spouted my bit. I'm glad I did it And to be fair, I would have no issue doing it again, because there is loads I have forgotten. But no, it isn’t on my list.
Most sports cost you a few quid to get started and continue with. Darts would probably end up costing you more throughout the year! At the end of the day you don't take up a hobby that you can't afford. As much as they might like to, there aren't too many low earners playing Polo are there?Thanks Malc'
Even as a fairly experienced stalker, I know I certainly benefited from it. I think it would be of incalculable value to people brand new to the sport, but I still can't help feeling a lot of people would find it a real strain on their budget. Having said that, I can now see where the cost come from.
Trouble is, on top of the existing application fee, the cost of booking stalks if they have no access to ground, and with this new idiotic doctors fee issue, some folk are going to find that even obtaining an FAC could potentially now be looking at costing them upwards of £500. And then, of course, they have the additional cost of cabinet, rifle, 'scope, moderator, clothing . . . .
It's a tricky one
sikamalc
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Thanks Malc'
Even as a fairly experienced stalker, I know I certainly benefited from it. I think it would be of incalculable value to people brand new to the sport, but I still can't help feeling a lot of people would find it a real strain on their budget. Having said that, I can now see where the cost come from.
Trouble is, on top of the existing application fee, the cost of booking stalks if they have no access to ground, and with this new idiotic doctors fee issue, some folk are going to find that even obtaining an FAC could potentially now be looking at costing them upwards of £500. And then, of course, they have the additional cost of cabinet, rifle, 'scope, moderator, clothing . . . .
It's a tricky one
Stalking is a fairly expensive hobby to get into, I will grant you that. But compared with other hobbies such as Carp Fishing (which people pay fortunes on equipment and lakes to fish) along with many other hobbies I personally dont think its that expensive. One can always buy good second hand equipment, the hardest part is finding the land to stalk.
Either way as far as course are concerned the fee of around £300 for Level 1 is nothing compared with the courses on the continent. Holland will cost you around £2k!! let alone some other countries such as Belgium, Germany etc. So for what it costs I think its quite reasonable.
I would add that's my personal opinion. No disrespect to anyone.
foxdropper
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Is the DSC recognised abroad Malc
We always send our D.S.C. L1 / 2 copies in with the other stuff when getting our dates for the Boar drives in Germany, regardless of any other certs / Jagdscheins etc.
foxdropper
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Thanks mate ,good to know it’s recognised elsewhere .
I think a lot of members who have been "countrymen" their whole lives seem to forget that not everyone has had that advantage, I have spent my adult life offshore, on the water, however as I got older I was interested in harvesting my own food so decided to start deer stalking, for me the dsc1 was invaluable, the things that maybe most of you took or have taken for granted, was new to me and needed to be learnt, I feel better having done the course than if I hadn't.
sikamalc
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Yes it is in most, if not all European countries? In fact without it in many cases you need to prove competence and may be asked to take a local test before going out.
John Gryphon
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That`s very much the same as the bloke that can knock the fly off the paper every time @ 200 yards but when out in the field and confronted by a decent stag under "assessment conditions" (external pressure) quite often all of that paper shooting history means Jack Schitt and a major fail comes up.
Btw very good Woody.
Woodsmoke
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John Gryphon
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Exactly!
I can still get the ducks n drakes in certain situations myself,usually from an exciting stalk in.
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