T3 why do folk like them?

[Craigsaun]

I have two t3 s 223 & 308 put a few after market bits to them , home loads AWSOME !

 

[slider]

Apologies, I did not realise that it was your "works" rifle and that you had no choice but to use it, I was a bit mystified as to why you continue to use a rifle that you clearly dislike, I think you should have made this clear from your opening post as many people will not read every single reply or update to your thread.

Perhaps you should approach whoever supplies you with the rifle and make clear all of you're concerns, especially regarding the safety issue around the bolt/ safety catch.

To be fair Ranger 22 said in his OP he had been using a T3, he never said he owned one - however many then assumed he did

 

[Ranger22]

@Ranger22, perhaps you should inform the relevant person at work that you don't like your T3.

Maybe you will be offered a Remington 700 as a replacement or even a Blaser R8 Ultimate Silence if you ask really really nicely.

They know, a Remy is out of the question.

 

[Ranger22]

@Ranger22, perhaps you should inform the relevant person at work that you don't like your T3.

Maybe you will be offered a Remington 700 as a replacement or even a Blaser R8 Ultimate Silence if you ask really really nicely.

Blaser, who the ffffffff wants a Blaser.

 

[slider]

Change your boss...

So, white van man, be he tinker, tailor or candlestick maker really likes his job but doesn't like the Transit van he is given to drive. The transit does the job well enough but he would rather have a Merc Sprinter.

He has a fairly specialist job and packs it all in because he would rather have a different van??

 

[takbok]

They know, a Remy is out of the question.

Bergara any good?

 

[barbel]

 

[Primate]

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Sorry unsure is this a 100yard Rem700 group or a 500y T3 group?

 

[barbel]

tikka t3x ctr 308 20" s/s adj 400m

 

[Primate]

Sorry I just noticed 400m in the pic. Not used to the metric system. Very much a yards and MOA man myself, I actually hate the thought of MILS . A credit to you anyway! Soooomany people in the UK have a very limited or no understanding of what rifles are easily capable of. I've been crow bashing this week with the .260. Even the shots I've missed were nats cocks off seeing the strike in the mud (I'm talking a longway). Kestrels are splendid bits of tackle! I've never shot a deer much over 200yards, the vast majority are inside 100yards. Having said that I've never shot very many south of the neck either so admittedly I like to get within a safe and easy range for that particular shot. I have never attempted it but would have absolutely no reservations on taking longer range shots on deer if I were chest shooting them. I see why the kiwis @dodgyknees do it due to the terrain. It really grates me when people diss this method of long range shooting of deer just because they are clueless on long range shooting.

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

single stack mag, mag sticks out to far,
can’t top load,
stock is worse than the Remington stock,
bolts a bit sloppy,
having to take the safety off to operate the bolt,
taking a round out the chamber - safety off, cycle bolt, pick out round, drop mag, round into mag, mag back in - what a load of faff.
Plastic shroud on the bolt-

Single stack is a failing I’ll give you that, but it not a huge deal really
You can single feed on a full mag
Stock worse than a Remington? Not in my view, you also have a T3 not a T3x by the sound of it. That stock is much much nicer than the bog standard Rem and lot of others
Sloppy bolt when open is a misnomer, doesn’t promote accuracy and is a function of bolt lug diameter vs shank diameter design.
Bolt lock when safe is a good thing, especially when carrying muzzle up loaded
Metal quality is better than a Rem or several other brands
The trigger is infinitely better, there is a reason there are so few aftermarket triggers for them

Pound for pound they are hard to beat
Just look at the market share they have, must be doing something right

 

[evangee]

To be fair Ranger 22 said in his OP he had been using a T3, he never said he owned one - however many then assumed he did

That seems like a very reasonable assumption to make.

 

[308rws]

Whilst the lack of a 3 position firing pin safety catch may be far from ideal, I have witnessed 3 Sako safety catches fail but, so far, never a Tikka T3 2 position safety catch failure. Less complex = less go wrong, I guess.

 

[Ranger22]

Bergara any good?

Possibly

 

[Ranger22]

Single stack is a failing I’ll give you that, but it not a huge deal really
You can single feed on a full mag
Stock worse than a Remington? Not in my view, you also have a T3 not a T3x by the sound of it. That stock is much much nicer than the bog standard Rem and lot of others
Sloppy bolt when open is a misnomer, doesn’t promote accuracy and is a function of bolt lug diameter vs shank diameter design.
Bolt lock when safe is a good thing, especially when carrying muzzle up loaded
Metal quality is better than a Rem or several other brands
The trigger is infinitely better, there is a reason there are so few aftermarket triggers for them

Pound for pound they are hard to beat
Just look at the market share they have, must be doing something right

It’s all down to personal preference. I don’t want to single feed, never said I did ever.
The single stack mag on the Tikka does not allow you to top load, so if I remove a round from the chamber. I have to remove the mag to put the unfired round back onto the mag- faff, to much faff. Do this several times a day and you get sick to the back teeth of a badly thought design.

 

[rem284]

Whilst the lack of a 3 position firing pin safety catch may be far from ideal, I have witnessed 3 Sako safety catches fail but, so far, never a Tikka T3 2 position safety catch failure. Less complex = less go wrong, I guess.

I had a t3 that failed. Two times. Both times safety pushed off, shot not fired because situation changed, went to put safety on and rifle went bang. The single screw that holds trigger unit on had came loose so simple isn't always better

 

[308rws]

Trying to understand why you find an unload followed by a load too much faff, are you shooting from a vehicle?

 

[308rws]

I had a t3 that failed. Two times. Both times safety pushed off, shot not fired because situation changed, went to put safety on and rifle went bang. The single screw that holds trigger unit on had came loose so simple isn't always better

How did it happen 2 times, did the screw come loose twice?

 

[ejg]

I had a t3 that failed. Two times. Both times safety pushed off, shot not fired because situation changed, went to put safety on and rifle went bang. The single screw that holds trigger unit on had came loose so simple isn't always better

Well that is the same on many rifles, even several remmy custom clones. Sako has the same screw. It is a bit like wheel nuts come loose and the wheel comes off. Yes I believe the original Remmy design with the pins going through, held by the stock is safer. I and others have several times mentioned that the first thing one should do with a Tikka or Sako is to remove the trigger screw, apply Loctite medium and then tighten the screw properly. Every time one gives the rifle a good clean check that screw.
I noticed Tikka/Sako use top quality screws on the trigger.
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[308rws]

Also reinforces why you must always point a rifle in a safe direction when you change the condition/state of the rifle.