Should buying/selling be stopped due to CV

[VSS]

I suspect delivery drivers (by helping people to stay at home) will probably save as many lives as a doctor, nurse, or other healthcare worker. Who'd-a thunk that some anonymous blokes in vans, earning minimum wage, would end up as national heros.

Conversely, I bet there's more than a few jumped up self important well paid stuffed shirts who've always considered themselves to be indispensable now sitting around without any useful role to play as the world continues to turn without their input.
I wonder if the current situation will have any lasting impact on social demographics?

 

[Freeforester]

Its spread by the unusually rapid movement of large quantities of toilet paper, probably pre infected by the eu as revenge for brexit.

Pm with £5 for the location

 

[slider]

The general opinion is that the virus can last 2 to 3 days on a solid surface such as plastic however its tends to be a lot less on carboard and absorbent materials therefore if it takes a couple of days to come from the supplier then the chances are the virus would have expired by the time you receive it

I get that if it travels in isolation but it will most likely go from depot to depot. In these depots and in the Van's in between in will come into contact with lots of other parcels and lots of people

 

[Freeforester]

I get that if it travels in isolation but it will most likely go from depot to depot. In these depots and in the Van's in between in will come into contact with lots of other parcels and lots of people

A bit like supermarket food, or is that sanitised before it self levitates on to the shelves??

 

[slider]

A bit like supermarket food, or is that sanitised before it self levitates on to the shelves??

Not denying that but food is essential to life. We can at least limit our exposure by not transporting non essentials.

 

[Freeforester]

Care to quantify risk of the latter, and hazard a guess as to where most otherwise isolating folk are most likely to be coming into contact with the virus or vectors, the postbox or the supermarket? Them packs you're picking up - who picked it before you, only to return it back to the shelf, say, or myriad other possibilities. Stick to the burrow as much as you can, it works best for the rabbit, at least until the stoat comes along!

 

[Boosh]

Don't know whether anybody has mentioned it anywhere, (sure they will have) but cannot see how sales of firearms can continue as its face to face.

 

[palmer_mike]

Don't know whether anybody has mentioned it anywhere, (sure they will have) but cannot see how sales of firearms can continue as its face to face.

I work at a business that incorporates an RFD....

Transactions that require face to face are still happening. It is possible to do it with social distances maintained with a little thought.

 

[finnbear270]

Don't know whether anybody has mentioned it anywhere, (sure they will have) but cannot see how sales of firearms can continue as its face to face.

Espescially if travelling involved?

 

[palmer_mike]

Espescially if travelling involved?

For recreation your probably right.

 

[mchughcb]

Care to quantify risk of the latter, and hazard a guess as to where most otherwise isolating folk are most likely to be coming into contact with the virus or vectors, the postbox or the supermarket? Them packs you're picking up - who picked it before you, only to return it back to the shelf, say, or myriad other possibilities. Stick to the burrow as much as you can, it works best for the rabbit, at least until the stoat comes along!

Rabbits have their own virus. Calici Virus and sticking in your burrow is how you wipe the local population out in days.

Just saying.

 

[Heym SR20]

My view is that plenty of online retailing is going on. Maybe not essential, but certainly sanity saving. And with sensible precautions it will allow many small businesses to continue. You are as likely to be infected by the packet of bog roll from the supermarket as the new scope sold to you by an SD member. If in doubt use your gralloching gloves to open packets. Wipe down with alcohol and then wash your hands.

 

[Fadcode]

I have just told Boris to stop writing to everyone.....because some people think the mail and deliveries should be stopped....and then I thought he could write another letter to everyone and tell them to dettol the first one. After all he's sitting in bed with nothing to do.

 

[Odders]

R22 makes a valid point.
The Virus could be transmitted on any surface if the conditions are right,and now with the weather warming it is likely to to have a longer period in which it is still contagious, plus there is also the possibility of it cross contaminating other parcels within the distribution depot..

Apparently not.
Coronavirus thrives below 10°C & in low humidity, so warmer sunnier weather actually disables it faster (hence colds being more common in winter)

 

[mchughcb]

Apparently not.
Coronavirus thrives below 10°C & in low humidity, so warmer sunnier weather actually disables it faster (hence colds being more common in winter)

They say that could be a reason why it hasn't spread down here.

 

[Miki]

I have recently sold some bullets, prior to putting them in the envelope I spray the bag with Isopropyl.
I don't have CV but I can't vouch for the posties ....

 

[tikkathreebarrels]

Just don't lick the packaging ffs!

 

[Pilky1303]

Again I shall try to explain, the government are not trying to stop this pandemic but are trying to slow it down. It won't/, can't be stopped, but if slowed then the NHS can function and save more lives. The economy should not be halted that would be doubly disastrous, so my vote is to remain trading and give the shops a lifeline here

Totally agree with you. Must be sensible and take virus extremely Seriously, but we all need to play a part in keeping shops going as best and as safely as possible

 

[griff]

Apparently not.
Coronavirus thrives below 10°C & in low humidity, so warmer sunnier weather actually disables it faster (hence colds being more common in winter)

Quote from Medical Science
"At temperatures of around 4°C or 39.2oF, certain versions of the coronavirus could remain viable for up to 28 days. At temperatures of 30–40°C (86–104°F), coronaviruses tended to persist for a shorter time.

At room temperature, the Coronavirus persisted significantly longer in 50% humidity than 30% humidity. Overall, the authors conclude:

“Human coronaviruses can remain infectious on inanimate surfaces at room temperature for up to 9 days".



The average Weekend temperature is going to be 13 degrees with an RH of 64%, the higher the humidity the more chance of infection..

 

[Fadcode]

Coronavirus thrives below 10°C & in low humidity, so warmer sunnier weather actually disables it faster (hence colds being more common in winter)


Surely colds more common in winter is because the germs are ejected from a warm body, the the person goes into a warm environment where the germs incubate, in their home for example, probably colds are spread more indoors than outdoors in the winter.
I do think a lot of these so called experts on the Corona Virus are just speculating about the virus, and a lot of the information tends to be contradictory.

If we look at these quotes:
“Human coronaviruses can remain infectious on inanimate surfaces at room temperature for up to 9 days".

"At temperatures of around 4°C or 39.2oF, certain versions of the coronavirus could remain viable for up to 28 days. At temperatures of 30–40°C (86–104°F), coronaviruses tended to persist for a shorter time.

Parts of these phrases puzzles me, that is "certain versions of the coronavirus " as the term Coronavirus refers to a species of viruses and not particularly to Covid 19, do we need to take notice of this quote, because if we have to.........

This would seem to me that if you had the virus in your home, and assuming it would be picked up by people and put down by people, it would never leave your home,.............. unless the temperature was below 4°C or higher than 30-40°C.
Is it in fact safe to stay indoors, and will staying indoors prevent infections, assuming that you go out at some stage and then come back in, or have visitors.
And does having the Virus and surviving, does this make you immune to further attacks of the virus.[/QUOTE]