Police Investigate bullets whizzing overhead

evetseel

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Hi all

So im out this morning on my land, zeroing in my .223. (giving consideration for the Covid-19 lock-down, im on my own land, and i own sheep, so keeping my rifle zero'd for the use on pests is within the rules) anyway few hours go by, the rifle is all cleaned and put away and im getting on with work in my study with a brew. All of a sudden 3 jam sandwiches roll into the driveway. The police were looking for my neighbour so i pointed them in his direction. 'Down the lane 200 yards take a left then its another 300 yards on your right'. 'Thank you very much, goodbye sir'.

20 mins later, ive finished my brew and my neighbour texts. 'heard 22 gun gun fire this morning, and a bullet whizzed over my head while i was in my garden' so I reported it to the police. (not sure how a sivi with no firearms experience can differentiate between calibres, but there we go)

Now, the detail of my shooting.....

Im shooting my .223 with v-max bullets. im zeroing at 100 yards shooing at an acute angle into the ground. my neighbours house is approximately 800 yards and at about 8 o'clock to the way im facing, so pointing about 100 degrees away from my neighbouring property. plenty of backstop, using expanding bullets and firing from an elevated position.

Recently ive taken to using my .223 without its silencer, to improve manoeuvrability at night, so its abit more barky than normal. anyway, 5 rounds, adjusted zero, 5 more and all done. took me about 10 mins.

now ive shot on this land with all my rifles and shotguns for years, 22LR, HMR, .223, .308 and 12g. never a problem. today however my nosey neighbour decides he's at risk of being shot.

I know the drill here, the police need to follow up so i have no beef there. As they had no direct lead (as in it didn't happen while they were there), they've gone back to the station to write up the witnesses statement and then pass it onto the firearms dpt for investigation. They will now look up who has shooting permissions or is registered in that local area, and ill possibly have a call in the next week or two. No worries there. The rough tone of the call will be, 'we've had a report', i shall say thank you very much but i can ashore you bla de blah de blah', they'll say 'very well', on your bike or may suggest a cursory visit to have a chat and a look around but I highly doubt that.

now the rant:


nosey neighbour has essentially today decided he has beef and instead of a polite call to me, he called the Police to play out his desires of showing me whats what, wasting valuable police time during an already stressed period.


What would your response be here?
 
Hi all

So im out this morning on my land, zeroing in my .223. (giving consideration for the Covid-19 lock-down, im on my own land, and i own sheep, so keeping my rifle zero'd for the use on pests is within the rules) anyway few hours go by, the rifle is all cleaned and put away and im getting on with work in my study with a brew. All of a sudden 3 jam sandwiches roll into the driveway. The police were looking for my neighbour so i pointed them in his direction. 'Down the lane 200 yards take a left then its another 300 yards on your right'. 'Thank you very much, goodbye sir'.

20 mins later, ive finished my brew and my neighbour texts. 'heard 22 gun gun fire this morning, and a bullet whizzed over my head while i was in my garden' so I reported it to the police. (not sure how a sivi with no firearms experience can differentiate between calibres, but there we go)

Now, the detail of my shooting.....

Im shooting my .223 with v-max bullets. im zeroing at 100 yards shooing at an acute angle into the ground. my neighbours house is approximately 800 yards and at about 8 o'clock to the way im facing, so pointing about 100 degrees away from my neighbouring property. plenty of backstop, using expanding bullets and firing from an elevated position.

Recently ive taken to using my .223 without its silencer, to improve manoeuvrability at night, so its abit more barky than normal. anyway, 5 rounds, adjusted zero, 5 more and all done. took me about 10 mins.

now ive shot on this land with all my rifles and shotguns for years, 22LR, HMR, .223, .308 and 12g. never a problem. today however my nosey neighbour decides he's at risk of being shot.

I know the drill here, the police need to follow up so i have no beef there. As they had no direct lead (as in it didn't happen while they were there), they've gone back to the station to write up the witnesses statement and then pass it onto the firearms dpt for investigation. They will now look up who has shooting permissions or is registered in that local area, and ill possibly have a call in the next week or two. No worries there. The rough tone of the call will be, 'we've had a report', i shall say thank you very much but i can ashore you bla de blah de blah', they'll say 'very well', on your bike or may suggest a cursory visit to have a chat and a look around but I highly doubt that.

now the rant:


nosey neighbour has essentially today decided he has beef and instead of a polite call to me, he called the Police to play out his desires of showing me whats what, wasting valuable police time during an already stressed period.


What would your response be here?

send a bunch of hookers with a bag of charlie round to his place, give it 15 minutes and call vice. that ought to do it. :rofl:
edit, for those not bright enough to work it out,,, this is meant as a joke, and nobody expects you to actually do it.
 
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Call the police and have a chat - pro-active rather than reactive. You are not doing anything wrong although they may ask you to inform them when you are out shooting in the future.
I called 'in' the other night as I was out shooting Mr Fox (at the farmers request) and was informed that this is a 'requirement' ... I did question that but didn't get a solid answer from the civi taking the call.
They wanted to know where I was (post code), what time I was starting/stopping, the farmers name (and my details).

Don't follow/emulate @riddick 's somewhat juvenile advice... we are supposed to be a responsible bunch.
 
Any possibility that it was someone else who fired the offending shot.
iI you neighbour is the kind to make trouble I would have thought you would have crossed swords with him before nowi
especially as you say you have shot over the ground for years.
 
Call the police and have a chat - pro-active rather than reactive. You are not doing anything wrong although they may ask you to inform them when you are out shooting in the future.
I called 'in' the other night as I was out shooting Mr Fox (at the farmers request) and was informed that this is a 'requirement' ... I did question that but didn't get a solid answer from the civi taking the call.
They wanted to know where I was (post code), what time I was starting/stopping, the farmers name (and my details).

Don't follow/emulate @riddick 's somewhat juvenile advice... we are supposed to be a responsible bunch.

inform the police each time your out shooting?
 
Any possibility that it was someone else who fired the offending shot.
iI you neighbour is the kind to make trouble I would have thought you would have crossed swords with him before nowi
especially as you say you have shot over the ground for years.
its possible, though i didnt hear any gun fire this morning, and the conditions were calm enough to hear.
 
Don't change what you do, just crack on shooting as you normally would. Licensing departments get all kinds of whingeing NIMBY types complaining about legal shooting and are well used to it.
just grips me a little bit that after all these years of safe shooting. i've not heard anything, and im not sure i even will but it still grinds my gears.
 
inform the police each time your out shooting?

Police Scotland "request" that you inform the police (call 101) when you are out shooting ... (I just called 101 to get that info). It's not a 'requirement'... nor is it an offence not to do so, but (as the FEO just said), 'we would like you too so we don't waste resources chasing reports'..

Seems over the top (to me) to call every time but does make sense especially if you have troublesome neighbors or are on some new ground ?
 
Police Scotland "request" that you inform the police (call 101) when you are out shooting ... (I just called 101 to get that info). It's not a 'requirement'... nor is it an offence not to do so, but (as the FEO just said), 'we would like you too so we don't waste resources chasing reports'..

Which will, in very short order (as you found out), become a requirement for some in the police service.
 
Difficult one

firstly .223 rounds do not 'wiz' overhead - anyone who has been at the receiving end of a high velocity round knows the sound is a brief and unmistakable crack

Jobsworth causing trouble ??

I thought maybe a section of jacket or a stone, but probably more the last point.
 
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