Personally I would not have a hw100 for ratting. I would be looking at a short barrel. I have a fast fire 10. Really pointable. My ratting was done a 10 to 20 meters generally.
Air rifle calibre choice
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Dickturpin
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Ratting?? 22 all day long......learn your trajectory.....
East Coast Lifeboat
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Thats a nice stick of timber... what is it and who made it. Just in that past days I repaired/tuned my old 95 after a proplonged period of sitting in the back of the cupboard.
I used to have hw97k under lever which I wish I never sold, Ive been tempted many of times to buy another! Is that a hw80?
East Coast Lifeboat
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Tom T3. Mine is a HW95 and the chap above has a HW80. For a chap wanting a air rifle for occasional rabbit/vermin control. Any HW springer 77/80/95/98 will be more than up to the task. Plus there are just about indistructable!
Hereford
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At some point (if the opportunity arises) I’d like to try these:
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Yes it is with original Venom Lazaglide action, shortened barrel and slim fit moddy by Venom
It is a Malaysian heavy teak. Made by GinB stocks, imported by BAR, who no longer make stocks as the father had passed away and the son didn’t have the passion of his dad.
Between this and my AA S410 in .22 we have a healthy cull rate on all small pest/vermin.
Yes love them -as I said I used to have a 97k but now have a hw100k and Daystate air ranger FAC still do have a hankering for a springer though!
I had a few .22 sub FAC air rifles of various makes when I was a youngster. Any spare time I had was spent shooting air rifles. I changed from shooting .22 to .177 and found it was a lot better in the sense that the trajectory was flatter and I could achieve smaller groups. So if I was going to buy a sub 12ftlb air rifle it would without question be a .177.
pj1
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I have had both 22 and 177 hw 100s. Choice for ratting personally is the 177. Especially if you go down the night vision route. It can be very difficult to judge distance with night vision and threading the flatter shooting 177 through tiny gaps is easier than the 22. You do get less shots per fill from a 177 but as has been stated you should get 56 shots (from a carbine) before refilling which is a fair amount. I used my hw 100 in 177 exclusively on rats for a year and a friend has a hw 100 standard length who shot with me. In that first year we shot 2000 rats between us and never had a misfeed or fault with either rifle. They really are well made.
As far as pellet choice goes we had a bit of an experiment. We both found domed pellets where most accurate. Single ragged hole at 35 yards no problem. I tried some h&n hunter extreme pellets and my friend continued with the domed. At the end of the night I would pick up more rats than he did even when we shot the same amount. They don’t have the energy to expand but they certainly hit harder and he now uses these pellets all the time.
The joy of owning my own pest control business has let me “invest” in an fac rated air rifle in 22. This gives me the flatter trajectory nearer the 177 but a bit more punch. About 17 ft lbs does the trick on rats but again with a hollow point type pellet. Domed pellets just zip through and whilst I’m sure the rats expire very quickly we don’t pick up as many at the end of the evening.
I still do though take hw 100 out still on smaller rat jobs and it does a fine job
As far as pellet choice goes we had a bit of an experiment. We both found domed pellets where most accurate. Single ragged hole at 35 yards no problem. I tried some h&n hunter extreme pellets and my friend continued with the domed. At the end of the night I would pick up more rats than he did even when we shot the same amount. They don’t have the energy to expand but they certainly hit harder and he now uses these pellets all the time.
The joy of owning my own pest control business has let me “invest” in an fac rated air rifle in 22. This gives me the flatter trajectory nearer the 177 but a bit more punch. About 17 ft lbs does the trick on rats but again with a hollow point type pellet. Domed pellets just zip through and whilst I’m sure the rats expire very quickly we don’t pick up as many at the end of the evening.
I still do though take hw 100 out still on smaller rat jobs and it does a fine job
Have you checked out the black dot of doom challenge on here?....sounds l8,e you should put in an entry
If you’re only going to have one pcp rifle then the .177 is more versatile than a 22. However the 22 is a better ratting calibre and in most rat shooting situations as you’ll be too close to worry about trajectory. In fact the .22 give you a flatter curve closer in so it’s better in that respect.
In saying that pellet choice is really important and you want something that crumples easy like a soft lead domed pellet, hollow point or a Logan penetrator style . The rifle I would say needs to be bolt action as opposed to side lever as they are quicker to cycle and it needs to be well balanced for free hand shooting . For this reason I wouldn’t recommend a springer as they are too slow to reload and you’ll get frustrated.
Length of rifle isn’t as important as balance but definitely a consideration . The best rifles I’ve found for ratting are the s410 or the daystate wolverine . Get a nice low mag scope with an illuminate Ret and you’re off.
In saying that pellet choice is really important and you want something that crumples easy like a soft lead domed pellet, hollow point or a Logan penetrator style . The rifle I would say needs to be bolt action as opposed to side lever as they are quicker to cycle and it needs to be well balanced for free hand shooting . For this reason I wouldn’t recommend a springer as they are too slow to reload and you’ll get frustrated.
Length of rifle isn’t as important as balance but definitely a consideration . The best rifles I’ve found for ratting are the s410 or the daystate wolverine . Get a nice low mag scope with an illuminate Ret and you’re off.
enfieldspares
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.177" gets LESS shots per cylinder and if unregulated the amount of those shots that are usable is also less. Any .22" will give a greater shot count per cylinder and of those shots all, pretty much, will be usable.
I had a BSA Scorpion T-10 in 177" (that I had regulated by Phil Crampton at Ratworks) and a BSA Scorpion T-10 in .22" that I left unregulated as it came from the factory. If I were exclusively ratting I'd choose a .22" over a .177" in any sub 12 ft/lbs PCP air rifle AND USE ITHAT .22" TO SHOOT THROUGH THE CHEST VIA THE SHOULDERS.
Having said that a head shot on a squirrel with my BSA Scorpion T-10 in .22" with Bisley Long Range Gold would kill them dead right there and would not penetrate through either. It is a better choice as body shots are surer.
As I now see my need as "one size fits all" and that in truth mostly pigeons, magpies and crows I sold the .22" and now have only the .177". But if for rats and squirrels ONLY I'd have for sure chosen the .22" Scorpion (unregulated) over the .177" Scorpion (Ratworks/Crampton regulated).
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22 is far better for everything.
Simply because thats what i used to use, I've never had a 177 even during my short time taking part in filed target shooting, the pellets were too fiddly, too small.
It really makes no odds what cal you choose, hit the spot they will all do the job.
Simply because thats what i used to use, I've never had a 177 even during my short time taking part in filed target shooting, the pellets were too fiddly, too small.
It really makes no odds what cal you choose, hit the spot they will all do the job.
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I wish I still had mine. The most accurate break-barrel I've owned:
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I wish I still had mine. The most accurate break-barrel I've owned:
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