Practical plus fours/breeks, (and the stag of a lifetime)

Here is a two-part write-up for you. The first is a practical write-up of my search for a solution to trousers for stalking on the Scottish hill. The second is testing my solution on said hill, which resulted in taking the stag of a lifetime, a stag which would normally have been left, but who got himself injured and thus needed to be dispatched.

The problem of Scottish hill trousers
First, before you troll me or get upset, I'm not saying I have the answers for anyone else, and I'm not criticising anyone else's solution to what to wear up the hill. This is just what works or doesn't, for ME.

Here are the things I've tried that worked okay, but had issues I wanted to address:
  • Traditionally wool plus fours. The traditional solution and they generally work pretty well (shed rain, nice and insulating etc) and look great in pictures. If they are silk lined, they work wonders. I had a great pair of Cordings that were nice and dark, fit well, silk lined so they moved and didn't scratch or rough up your skin. The downside of these is that they are expensive and I thought too much about damaging them or getting them irreversibly stained. When you do get them dirty, you have to dry clean them, that gets expensive too. As I was crawling up a burn getting soaked, I was worried more about them than the deer we were stalking, which was stupid. Here they are before heading up the hill, complete with (what I thought were) cool leather gaitors (extra credit to anyone who knows where this is) ...
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  • Another option is to use some specific technical stalking trousers of some type, made in Scandy, the US or even here. I tried a few brands. Again, they all worked pretty well, but I never found a pair that wasn't really hot and sweaty when cranking up the steep Highland hillsides. And again, the best ones are out of the reach of many recreational stalkers with eye-watering prices in three figures that don't start with a one or two.
  • In heather, the outter "quiet" layer often gets soaked, then it crawls up the trouser. You can add gaitors (I always did), but then even on cooler days your lower leg gets hot and the material bunches up around your ankle and calf. I found that really uncomfortable.
So, here is my solution:
  • A pair of surplus, used British Army No. 4 dress trousers, fairly heavy, but not too heavy wool/acrylic blend.
  • Altered by a seamstress into a plus-four configuration with velcro closures
  • Held up by braces (suspenders to my fellow Americans).
Advantages:
  • Inexpensive: I got my pair off eBay for £10 plus postage ($13), plus only £20 ($26) for the seamstress work (prices may vary, lol). You don't mind if you get them dirty or wet, they are PRACTICAL everyday breeks.
  • Comfy: not having a belt, and being a blend, they are comfy to wear. You can pair them with wool socks and a gaitor for the perfect combination.
  • Breathable: They breathe nicely, but are still insulating (even when wet) and water shedding. I wear a base layer on cooler autumn hunts, and further add an insulating layer on the hinds, tis perfect for me.
  • Still has a traditional look that is welcome on many estates.
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TO BE CONTINUED! ...
 

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I bet. One of my bucket list items is an extended trip up north for water buffalo and scrub bulls. That looks like a kick in the pants!

I've got just the medicine, a .458 Lott ...

Have you done that?
No I am on the record and have been for 46 years that shooting Asiatic Buff in the NT is akin to shooting cattle.They have never floated my boat,I have been given free invites over many years to do so but have never bothered.
They may be big but any bloke that can handle a rifle and a cheque book can shoot a big one.
 
OK, so I had to google it...


binky

NOUN
trademark in us
  1. a baby's dummy.

What we had here is an American domicile in the UK and an Aussie domicile in the antipodes - massive time difference - and yet both appear to have got out of bed on the wrong side.

Come on Gents, I think it's all good natured.
 
OK, so I had to google it...


binky

NOUN
trademark in us
  1. a baby's dummy.

What we had here is an American domicile in the UK and an Aussie domicile in the antipodes - massive time difference - and yet both appear to have got out of bed on the wrong side.

Come on Gents, I think it's all good natured.

Fair enough.

In my defense Mi'lord, note who started with the negativity/criticism. I can always be counted on to hit back and won't stop anytime soon. Self defense is a human right. I'm American after all ... and British. Lol!
 
Fair enough.

In my defense Mi'lord, note who started with the negativity/criticism. I can always be counted on to hit back and won't stop anytime soon. Self defense is a human right. I'm American after all ... and British. Lol!

I think this is where it is useful to take into consideration the national traits of our cousins.

Negativity/criticism is just polite conversation to most Aussies - isn't that right John - you old Teddy Bear you.


Forgive the re-post but it is (sort of) related to the Aussie mentality and still makes me laugh:-


Ah the antipodean - rough, rugged and yet somehow containing a sensitive side.

Diving in Australia. The Captain of the boat was ex-Australian Navy and had more tattoos than Edinburgh Castle.

One of the other divers (not with us I hasten to add) was an American. This chap moaned all the way out to the dive site - the weather was rough and he was not a natural sailor.
He moaned about the air cylinder. He moaned about everything. He had clearly lost his appetite to dive in such conditions and went to report his concerns to the Captain.

The Aussie listened carefully to the American's list of concerns before addressing them with one of the finest put-downs I have ever witnessed:-

"Mate. Phone the Samaritans - they give a sh*t".
 
So ... I just have to accept that and not dish it back then?

Nah.

They dish, I dish back with a bit of frosting.

Because that's MY redneck Free Nation of Idaho trait.
 
So ... I just have to accept that and not dish it back then?

No old son, not suggesting you do that at all - and to be clear I take no sides - just like to see people rub along.
Jonny is a big boy - he knows how it works...

Newton's third law:-

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
 
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No old son, not suggesting you do that at all - and to be clear I take no sides - just like to see people rub along.
Jonny is a big boy - he knows how it works...

Newton's third law:-

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Indeed. Hence my equal and opposite reaction to the initiation of this whole thing. See how this works? For absence of doubt I reacted, not initiated That's my policy.
 
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