Can you zero rifle on crown land ie foreshore in Scotland
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enfieldspares
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It's a sensible question I guess prompted by the old right of people to shoot on the foreshore. But I am not sure if that right still exists. I'm a SACS member so if you PM me your direct question I'll cut and paste it and send it to SACS. If anyone here is a CA, BASC or whatever member and maybe they'll respind here and offer you the same favour?
Norfolk Horn
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In some areas the shooting on the foreshore is restricted to shotguns only. Now is this crown or local policy I don't know, I would guess local as wildfowling clubs brought it in to stop mud crawling with rifles on the roost.
WAGBI would have known
WAGBI would have known
Norfolk Horn
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Foreshore would need to be non toxic surely and the disturbance would excessive surely in comparison to wildfowling
countrryboy
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I'm guessing its in Scotland?? Edit just seen Scotland mentioned in the title
Good question and possibly different for all 4 countries, possibly even regional variations but wether legal or just local policy
Did the foreshore not change hands like everything else crown wise has done to holyrood a few years ago, probably longer ago now.
For shotguns u need to below high tide mark, if u did that with a rifle would it not make a very flat shooting ground, unless u had ground adjoining it to shoot downhill onto it ( assuming it is legal)
Must admit not a wildfowler so not 100% on exact legalities esp since it changed hands and out off season.
Also things are far more regulated in recent years with access and club grounds or NNR, u used to be able to shoot almost anywhere without being a club member/day ticket holder, now far more like English system
But if it was a free for all u could rock up at beech with ur clay traps every Sunday, obviously with non toxic shot and bio clays.
Good question and possibly different for all 4 countries, possibly even regional variations but wether legal or just local policy
Did the foreshore not change hands like everything else crown wise has done to holyrood a few years ago, probably longer ago now.
For shotguns u need to below high tide mark, if u did that with a rifle would it not make a very flat shooting ground, unless u had ground adjoining it to shoot downhill onto it ( assuming it is legal)
Must admit not a wildfowler so not 100% on exact legalities esp since it changed hands and out off season.
Also things are far more regulated in recent years with access and club grounds or NNR, u used to be able to shoot almost anywhere without being a club member/day ticket holder, now far more like English system
But if it was a free for all u could rock up at beech with ur clay traps every Sunday, obviously with non toxic shot and bio clays.
enfieldspares
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Forget England as the law is very different. In Scotland there is in principle a public right to recreation on the foreshore, subject to bye-laws such as the declaration of Local Nature Reserves. A phone call to Colin Shedden at BASC Scotland (01350 723 226) would be the best way to find out about a specific area. With respect to SACS and SGO, this less likely to be within their knowledge.
Utectok
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You right crown estates has now been devolved to crown estates Scotland or some such name. There is a lot of foreshore around me that is free wildfowling although access is sometimes an issue. As I’m a local I know all the adjoining lands farmers and get on well with them. One farm I have permission on adjoins the mudflats and has a tasty raised shoreline that would mean safe shots. Generally it’s hard to find a quiet 400m spot round here and I thought this would solve it!
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Utectok
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Ive dropped sacs a line we will see
Many years ago I was a member of a club that rented the foreshore from the Crown (England) for shooting. There was a lot of restrictions placed upon us, shooting only between high and low water mark, non-toxic projectiles, pre-agreement from local land-owners for access, risk assessments and very specifically only shotguns to be used and no activities that could cause harm or detriment to other users (on water, land or sky).
If these are the same restrictions that apply outside of a lease arrangement then I think it would be hard to meet them while shooting rifles at long range. Especially when you consider the risk of bullet skim/bounce on very flat ground.
If these are the same restrictions that apply outside of a lease arrangement then I think it would be hard to meet them while shooting rifles at long range. Especially when you consider the risk of bullet skim/bounce on very flat ground.
countrryboy
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Have u not got any small hills looking over flat fields?
Althou fairly hard ground in places over ur side of region
Would save a lot of hassle.
I would imagine u definatrly will fall foul if using lead bullets.
I think I know ur general area, would there not be a high chance off a tourist/holiday let or settler phoning to complian about it if within earshot??
If any chances u need to make sure 100% within the law as polis most likely be out at some point.
Althou fairly hard ground in places over ur side of region
Would save a lot of hassle.
I would imagine u definatrly will fall foul if using lead bullets.
I think I know ur general area, would there not be a high chance off a tourist/holiday let or settler phoning to complian about it if within earshot??
If any chances u need to make sure 100% within the law as polis most likely be out at some point.
Utectok
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well SACs said
"I would strongly urge against target shooting on the foreshore following earlier meetings with crown estates representatives in Edinburgh. I am not clear about the exact legality, but there is something about wildfowling being a permitted recreation. In any case you could only use non-lead bullets."
still a legal known but as above defo not worth the risk.
"I would strongly urge against target shooting on the foreshore following earlier meetings with crown estates representatives in Edinburgh. I am not clear about the exact legality, but there is something about wildfowling being a permitted recreation. In any case you could only use non-lead bullets."
still a legal known but as above defo not worth the risk.
Ah well good to know.
Would save a lot of bullet holes in 'Passing Place' signs if the Highland council could set up a few strategically placed 'zeroing areas' for all FAC holders.
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