Cz rifle ageing by serial number

[Rhodesianjess]

Does anybody know if I can determine age of my rifle by serial number ie provide link to website concerned.
My rifle is 527 model chambered 223 rem, however it has double set triggers. I owned a BRNO Fox with same trigger setup in 222 rem many years ago, just wanted to try and determine the age of the one I own now.
Many thanks in advance.
Jess.

 

[Fosbery Holster]

I’ve a very limited knowledge of CZ rifles but on my only .22lr Cz rifle the date of manufacture is stamped on the left hand side, (as you look down the barrel towards the foresight), on the barrel chamber directly in front of the action and also on the action, it’s a two number date, in my case it is 76 (1976).
I’ve seen a similar date code on a friend’s Cz 222.

Sorry that l may not have explained myself or the rifle correctly, but l hope my amateur explanation may help in your quest to date your rifles.

 

[Rhodesianjess]

Your description very helpful indeed, 90 is stamped there next to proof stamp. This rifle is marked as cz527 on breech where bolt head locks, however on left side of breech directly above magazine also stamped Brno arms factory. Is this usual, having two makers names,albeit one morphed into the other?
Never seen another double set trigger on these models, only single set.

 

[Hornet 6]

Does it say CZ on it as well as Brno ?

Neil.

 

[Rhodesianjess]

Yes it does, cz 527 plus Brno arms factory. On my ticket as cz527. Someone suggested that it's an early cz and the factory were used old stock, hence double set trigger and Brno marking?

 

[Fosbery Holster]

Your description very helpful indeed, 90 is stamped there next to proof stamp. This rifle is marked as cz527 on breech where bolt head locks, however on left side of breech directly above magazine also stamped Brno arms factory. Is this usual, having two makers names,albeit one morphed into the other?
Never seen another double set trigger on these models, only single set.

Sorry Jess my knowledge as l said is limited, isn’t Cz and BRNO one and the same ??
Someone with far greater knowledge will let us both know, hopefully.

 

[Rhodesianjess]

As I understand it, Brno become cz when changes occurred in former USSR. It's the same rifle as the old Brno fox, albeit it 223 as opposed to 222 or Hornet. It came with iron sights, not scewcut and hog back wooden stock with cheekpiece. Most unusual, hence the enquiries.
Many thanks for your input, very helpful. Thank you.

 

[Rhodesianjess]

Should have done this to start with, apologies.

 

[8x57]

As I understand it, Brno become cz when changes occurred in former USSR. It's the same rifle as the old Brno fox, albeit it 223 as opposed to 222 or Hornet. It came with iron sights, not scewcut and hog back wooden stock with cheekpiece. Most unusual, hence the enquiries.
Many thanks for your input, very helpful. Thank you.

I'm curious where the USSR comes into it.
I may be mistaken but my understanding is that the original company centred around the city of Brno separated into two different companies one based in the Czech republic and the other in Slovakia when Czechoslovakia "divorced". For a time the one company made centrefire rifles and the other continued to make the rimfire rifles but this has probably changed now.

Maybe I've got it wrong but I also believe that the company that became CZ bought out or absorbed the other company that had previously been known as Brno at a later date.

You say your rifle says both CZ and Brno as the maker. Is it possible that the Brno in this instance refers to the address rather than the old name used by the manufacturer?

 

[JMikeyH]

Just to add to the confusion my CZ is also stamped with Zastava! Made in Yugoslavia

 

[8x57]

Just to add to the confusion my CZ is also stamped with Zastava! Made in Yugoslavia

Curious as Zastava is another company entirely and is a Serbian company.

 

[JMikeyH]

Curious as Zastava is another company entirely and is a Serbian company.

Yep, to be honest I haven't got a clue what it really is! CZ emblem visible on the left, followed by Zastava

 

[8x57]

Is it a copy of a CZ model made by Zastava?
The address marked - Kragujevac and Serbia, is the Zastava plant.

 

[JMikeyH]

Is it a copy of a CZ model made by Zastava?
The address marked - Kragujevac and Serbia, is the Zastava plant.

That seems a reasonable deduction. It looks very much like the ZKK601 by Brno which is in itself a 98 action. There are subtle differences between the ZKK601 and this so may well be a copy

 

[8x57]

I wonder if CZ made your rifle and supplied it to Zastava who then rebranded it? Rebranding is very common in the firearms industry.
Zastava are better known for rifles based on the K98 Mauser. I am sure that the plant was or maybe still is government owned, and they previously produced excellent versions of the military K98 known as the M48.

 

[alberta boy]

Yep, to be honest I haven't got a clue what it really is! CZ emblem visible on the left, followed by Zastava

Interesting , that's a new one for me , and a nice rifle .

AB

 

[Rhodesianjess]

I'm totally flummoxed with my rifle, hence the post. Double triggers and stock shape not seen on another 223 chambered weapon. Cz and Brno marking ditto.
It's just curiosity, it's a lovely little tool. Light even with scope and moderator, superbly accurate with 55 grain reloads, this one is a keeper.

 

[Oracle]

The stamp on the photo at #12 is not identical to that of CZ (Czech), more likely it is CRVENA ZASTAVA (Yugoslavia) own logo, also CZ but not connected with the Czech manufacturer. Does the rifle have a butt plate, compare the logo on that to the barrel stamp.

 

[Rhodesianjess]

Any ideas on my rifle Oracle? I'm still in the dark

 

[8x57]

The stamp on the photo at #12 is not identical to that of CZ (Czech), more likely it is CRVENA ZASTAVA (Yugoslavia) own logo, also CZ but not connected with the Czech manufacturer. Does the rifle have a butt plate, compare the logo on that to the barrel stamp.

I see what you mean Oracle, similar but not the same.