Any others cynical about a vaccine?

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Your definition of science as eye witness observation comes straight out of Creationist/Intelligent Design playbook.
It's a definition that has been used to try to deny evolution - the argument being that because there were no eye witnesses to it, evolution cannot have happened
As we say in Scotland - Aye, Right
The Scientific Method is described well here Scientific method - Wikipedia.
and it involves a lot more than eye witness observation

Cheers

Bruce
 
Your definition of science as eye witness observation comes straight out of Creationist/Intelligent Design playbook.
It's a definition that has been used to try to deny evolution - the argument being that because there were no eye witnesses to it, evolution cannot have happened
As we say in Scotland - Aye, Right
The Scientific Method is described well here Scientific method - Wikipedia.
and it involves a lot more than eye witness observation

Cheers

Bruce
Sorry, but once again, what makes your opinion any more valid than those of others on here? You still haven’t explained your qualification to take your higher ground..... I’m only guessing here, but would it be because you too are a lay-person and have no such basis upon which to question others?
 
Ode to Pfizer on Discovering a Vaccine

Oh, such perfection!
Neither super-infection
Nor wicked objection
Can diminish affection
Or encourage rejection
Of a Covid correction
By intravenous injection
Combining virus protection
And a stiffer erection!
 
Ode to Pfizer on Discovering a Vaccine

Oh, such perfection!
Neither super-infection
Nor wicked objection
Can diminish affection
Or encourage rejection
Of a Covid correction
By intravenous injection
Combining virus protection
And a stiffer erection!

..which, upon reflection
May require some correction..


Think you'll find it's more of a 'Turkish Delight', BioNTech have taken this one forward, led by man and wife scientist team of Turkish extraction, based in Germany

 
..which, upon reflection
May require some correction..


Think you'll find it's more of a 'Turkish Delight', BioNTech have taken this one forward, led by man and wife scientist team of Turkish extraction, based in Germany


The two companies signed a co-development agreement back in March. Perhaps you missed it?


Anyway, BioNTech is much tougher to rhyme.....
 
Sorry, but once again, what makes your opinion any more valid than those of others on here? You still haven’t explained your qualification to take your higher ground..... I’m only guessing here, but would it be because you too are a lay-person and have no such basis upon which to question others?
This probably made perfect sense in your head when you typed it but I can't make head nor tail of what you are trying to say.
 
was it not a morning sickness drug for pregnant women ?
It was, a sedative, and taking it resulted in very severe birth defects.
Its now use (apparently) to treat some cancers and complications in Leprosy ?
The first statement I am fully aware of - its current use I have copied here from Google.
 
This probably made perfect sense in your head when you typed it but I can't make head nor tail of what you are trying to say.
It’s pretty simple. He is happy to question any opinion he doesn’t agree with and claim that others are in his own words “unqualified” to make their opinion known, and yet he continues to enforce his own views without confirming what makes his any more valid.....
 
The video in post #174 is the most compelling, fact-driven, single distillation of the failure of ICL's modelling, lockdown's real cost and it lays bare the absence of any second wave.

If you recently bought Pfizer shares, I hope sales of their blue tablets do well for you.
 
Day 0 for SARS-CoV-2 was June 2019. It is said to be highly infectious. R0 estimated to be 3+. It had a free run around the globe for 9 months before any lockdowns. If its impact with a free rein is limited to 1m CFR globally, what circumstances could possibly cause it to "run riot" now?

Can provide some evidence for your assertion that SARSCoV19 has been present since in the world population since June 2019?
 
It’s pretty simple. He is happy to question any opinion he doesn’t agree with and claim that others are in his own words “unqualified” to make their opinion known, and yet he continues to enforce his own views without confirming what makes his any more valid.....
That's quite simply not true, Bruce didn't say that zambezi or anyone else for that matter was "unqualified".

Why are you making things up?
 
Can provide some evidence for your assertion that SARSCoV19 has been present since in the world population since June 2019?

I am searching for that data now.

IIRC, it was based on US west coast and Paris autopsy data. I.e. once the virus started taking lives in the April 2020, some researchers performed autopsies that showed folk who had died in 2019 had the virus in their bodies.

But rather than dredge from memory, I will try to relocate data. It is a fair question. [I have migrated PCs in the last two weeks and some data did not make it on to the new platform...]

That said, even if we accept China's official day 0, [mid November], then we still have 4 months in which the virus was jetted around the world by our very mobile global population.
 
Zambezi, remind us again about your expertise in the area of vaccine development and testing?
Informed opinion such as that from "Buchan" which is well argued and explained with clear limits on his expertise is always welcome.
Uninformed opinion adds nothing to the discussion.


Cheers

Bruce
@Fair Hill, when you call somewhat out over their “expertise” it would be fitting to inform others of your own “expertise” on the matter, don’t you think?
 
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