Excellent point.
leaving bolts in rifle when in cabinet
- Thread starter norma 308
- Start date
Excellent point.
This brings back memories of the olden days - my father's BSA .22 target rifle in the guest-room wardrobe and its Martini action in the safe with the pistols.
The good ol' days!
norma 308
Well-Known Member
she did work for the fuzzies some time ago and we did think about it ,we decided to let her get some s\gun experience first before going down the fire arms route .
If some unwashed type entered my property whilst empty, I would look a little sheepish explaining why a fully functional firearm was removed after only one secure door overcome.
Finnbear A gunsafe only has to take 15mins to break into to be passed by plod, if your house was empty and they wanted your guns storing the bolts in a seperate store would not stop them, with a battery operated cutter and the correct disc (it would be wrong to say which) most gun safes would not last 6 mins before the top was off.
So does that relieve me of making best efforts to do my utmost?
You could get into most gun cabinets in a minute or two with a cordless grinder. They are a thieves favourite tool. If I was doing it three cuts around the locks would do it.
If they want your gun and you are out then they WILL get it. If I have done everything required of me by law and the Police Firearms Security Handbook it's not my problem there are bad people in the world. If someone breaks into my house and points a gun at me and asks me to open the cabinet They can have whatever they want.
The only time I remove the bolt is if I have to leave the gun in the car or for cleaning.
For sure, I totally agree with both points there. (except that, "having whatever they want" ends at objects within the cabinet, if he happened to ask for sexual favours, I would have to think of fast evasive action!!)
This seems to be another point on which we, having weighed up the pro and con, are allowed to make up our own minds.
My bolts are 'out' in the cabinet because:
The rifles go in the cabinet better with them out
No bolt is so similar to another that they are likely to get mixed up
The rifles are used infrequently enough for it not a be a great inconvenience.
We need to be careful, I think, in what we charge ourselves with: there is no duty 'to make your best efforts to do your utmost'. We are rather required by law to take 'reasonable precautions', and our decisions may be informed by the Firearms Security guidance. Within that, we have freedom under the Law to act as we consider reasonable under our specific circumstances.
My bolts are 'out' in the cabinet because:
The rifles go in the cabinet better with them out
No bolt is so similar to another that they are likely to get mixed up
The rifles are used infrequently enough for it not a be a great inconvenience.
We need to be careful, I think, in what we charge ourselves with: there is no duty 'to make your best efforts to do your utmost'. We are rather required by law to take 'reasonable precautions', and our decisions may be informed by the Firearms Security guidance. Within that, we have freedom under the Law to act as we consider reasonable under our specific circumstances.
Orion
Well-Known Member
8x57
Distinguished Member
I leave my bolts in the rifles for two reasons-
1) Two of my rifles are break actions so it is not possible to remove the bolts. What would be the point of only disabling certain rifles.
2) It's a bit of a pain in the neck releasing bolt tension on bolts and having to re-cock bolts prior to use, after all no one stores bolts cocked do they?
1) Two of my rifles are break actions so it is not possible to remove the bolts. What would be the point of only disabling certain rifles.
2) It's a bit of a pain in the neck releasing bolt tension on bolts and having to re-cock bolts prior to use, after all no one stores bolts cocked do they?
Guilty as charged. Guns also stored cocked.
j0e_bl0ggs
Well-Known Member
A Safe is a different thing...
j0e_bl0ggs
Well-Known Member
Easing springs... another piece of advise the wife would have better kept to herself!
It is unnecessary the spring will not loose 'tension' unless you stress the spring past its deformation point - not usually possible when working within spring design limits.
It is unnecessary the spring will not loose 'tension' unless you stress the spring past its deformation point - not usually possible when working within spring design limits.
Similar threads
