cos the North of the Border chaps don't want to pay the money we HAVE to,
Where do we get this from? What do we have to do? I look at a lease/syndicate. If I can afford it I will put my name forward. If I can't I don't. Simple maths. We are a small country so south of the border there is a high percentage of people with a lot more disposable income. As for the deer problem, where is it? It exists mainly in minds of forestry and public access areas where deer levels are kept substantially lower than other areas. Hill deer are managed as a resource. Overspill from the main stalking estates towards forestry does cause some conflict. The majority of areas are well served by stalkers. Scotland does not have the problems reported in England. Yes there are some vocal on what to be honest is rediculous bid prices. One syndicate, which a Scottish member on here bought into at £1000 a pop have not seen deer on the ground. At the last DMG (Central Scotland) meeting main topic. Poaching,and yes as Gazza said this land probably included is the main problem, where poachers are dropped off, work their way through the netwok of woods overnight with battery lamps. Leave the kill at the roadside. Get picked up and collect in the morning. Safest woods from these chaps is those that can have a local (40 minutes away) stalker who can do a high seat stalk mid week.
In summery, *because we can, we can't. * because we can't we get the poachers. *Because we get the poachers farmers and foresters are wary about giving us access. * because access is so limited we get inflated pricing. *because we got inflated pricing we can't afford it. *because we can't afford it we are tight. *because we are tight we can't get the lease. * because we can't get a lease we have to apply to lease holder who are only taking south of the border stalkers.*Because we are local we are knocked back. *because we are knocked back we get a bit narked. * because we get narked we get blatent racist remarks posted on an open forum.
Jim
There is banter and there is racism. It is not that long ago that in an argument in Aberdeen one was fined for calling the other an English W*nker. The fine was for calling the other English (True)
Where do we get this from? What do we have to do? I look at a lease/syndicate. If I can afford it I will put my name forward. If I can't I don't. Simple maths. We are a small country so south of the border there is a high percentage of people with a lot more disposable income. As for the deer problem, where is it? It exists mainly in minds of forestry and public access areas where deer levels are kept substantially lower than other areas. Hill deer are managed as a resource. Overspill from the main stalking estates towards forestry does cause some conflict. The majority of areas are well served by stalkers. Scotland does not have the problems reported in England. Yes there are some vocal on what to be honest is rediculous bid prices. One syndicate, which a Scottish member on here bought into at £1000 a pop have not seen deer on the ground. At the last DMG (Central Scotland) meeting main topic. Poaching,and yes as Gazza said this land probably included is the main problem, where poachers are dropped off, work their way through the netwok of woods overnight with battery lamps. Leave the kill at the roadside. Get picked up and collect in the morning. Safest woods from these chaps is those that can have a local (40 minutes away) stalker who can do a high seat stalk mid week.
In summery, *because we can, we can't. * because we can't we get the poachers. *Because we get the poachers farmers and foresters are wary about giving us access. * because access is so limited we get inflated pricing. *because we got inflated pricing we can't afford it. *because we can't afford it we are tight. *because we are tight we can't get the lease. * because we can't get a lease we have to apply to lease holder who are only taking south of the border stalkers.*Because we are local we are knocked back. *because we are knocked back we get a bit narked. * because we get narked we get blatent racist remarks posted on an open forum.
Jim
There is banter and there is racism. It is not that long ago that in an argument in Aberdeen one was fined for calling the other an English W*nker. The fine was for calling the other English (True)
When you need to look at Deer problems it is in england were the main ones are and christ you cant get on that ground for love nor money. Most of that over populated ground is run by the DI and the FC .
