Hogs and helicopters, can I clear this up for you folks!

[Skietindiekop]

It kind of shoots down your argument that it’s just pest control when numerous outfits in TX are selling ‘Helicopter Hog Hunts’.

seems like that’s what all the outfits are calling it so that’s what everyone’s going to think of it as.......

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No better than the circus when they used big cats. All about making money rather than paying for someone with the right skills to do the job

 

[A Guy Out West]

I think that you may be preaching to the wrong crowd on this forum buddy. We all know and fully understand the reasons why the process you describe is carried out in that manner.

Jamsie

Sorry friend, but based on numerous comments on this, not everyone knows.

 

[User00033]

I’d only get one at a time @The Singing Stalker, maybe two... hopeless. You have to have a means to follow them. Low flying skilled pilot, .30 cal or 12 ga semi-auto, close, patience. The Aussies are very good on bikes and quads.

A lot of the American videos we see are youngsters going straight from the gaming console to the chopper - it’s fee paying recreational fun.

 

[A Guy Out West]

I have seen some of the videos, I watched some of them because they were using thermal and the amount of hogs is just amazing. You can see that it is out and out pest control.
So a couple of questions for those with knowledge, possibly stupid,
Could they not do driven hunting like in the continent? Would that be effective. One shot and they all take off.
If you had a long distance shooter aka, Dodgy knees work on goats where he can take a few out at 300/400 yards, would that work or if a hog fell would the others run off anyway?

Impossible buddy. Driven hunts, out of the question. The tera just won’t allow it. DK style, ok for a few, but not the numbers that is needed.

 

[User00040]

@A Guy Out West ;

 

[palmer_mike]

The law does! This is not legal hunting. This is not hunting allowed by the law.

And fox hunting (with hounds etc) is illegal in this country, yet it’s still called hunting

 

[A Guy Out West]

I’d only get one at a time @The Singing Stalker, maybe two... hopeless. You have to have a means to follow them. Low flying skilled pilot, .30 cal or 12 ga semi-auto, close, patience. The Aussies are very good on bikes and quads.

A lot of the American videos we see are youngsters going straight from the gaming console to the chopper - it’s fee paying recreational fun.

Don’t be fooled by YouTube. There are plenty of professional hog shooters in America, they just don’t make YouTube videos.

 

[The Singing Stalker]

Thanks for the answers, I find it fascinating because it is such a tough question to a huge problem and how you over come it. Is there a lot of interest in the meat over there? Can it be sold on like we do with the deer here?

 

[A Guy Out West]

And fox hunting (with hounds etc) is illegal in this country, yet it’s still called hunting

I’m not against it, but I never really thought it hunting myself. More like chasing and watching your dogs kill something.

 

[A Guy Out West]

Thanks for the answers, I find it fascinating because it is such a tough question to a huge problem and how you over come it. Is there a lot of interest in the meat over there? Can it be sold on like we do with the deer here?

It can be sold as it is not game (in most states), I don’t really know anything about the market aspect as we don’t have them every in my area.

 

[A Guy Out West]

@A Guy Out West ;

I really hope this is Hollywood BS. If it’s true, what a shame.

 

[Marcher]

I don't see the problem with charging for pest control. We quite happily pay for guided Pigeon Shooting.

 

[A Guy Out West]

It kind of shoots down your argument that it’s just pest control when numerous outfits in TX are selling ‘Helicopter Hog Hunts’.

seems like that’s what all the outfits are calling it so that’s what everyone’s going to think of it as.......

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People that want to make money from it will call it what ever they want. You don’t even need a license to do it. When a hunting license is required to do it, you can call it hunting. When it’s legal to hunt from an aircraft, you can call it hunting too. Don’t hold your breath for that one.

 

[A Guy Out West]

I don't see the problem with charging for pest control. We quite happily pay for guided Pigeon Shooting.

I would pay to go on an air gun rat shoot .

 

[palmer_mike]

Seems to me it’s not illegal otherwise it would be shut down sharpish.

So what we’re left with is that you don’t like them calling it hunting..........

By the way we don’t call what we do here Deer hunting but in the US that’s exactly what it would be called.

 

[Jamsie]

Sorry friend, but based on numerous comments on this, not everyone knows.

Unfortunately ... there are flies in every ointment

 

[Rasputin]

My only gripe with it that from the predominantly usa videos I see the guys are **** shots and there’s going to be a horrendous amount of pigs being left to die in agony for the glory of YouTube. As a Brit it’s often hard for us to conceptualise the sheer size of farms in Aus and USA so our normal sensibilities and procedures frankly don’t apply but at the end of the day vermin or not they should have a certain amount of respect awarded to them.

 

[Heym SR20]

A completely off the wall thought. Large predators in particular the Tiger is under intense pressure. Northern Australia is not very far from Tigers origanal range - they were present in most of Indonesia. Northern Australia has a large population of large Asian ungulates - notably Buffalo and Banteng. What about using some of the wilder areas to create reserve populations of Tigers at the same time controlling Buffalo.

Texas use to be home to the Jaguar and there is now plenty of prey in the form pigs.

Mankind has found it quite easy to eliminate populations of wild animals in many parts of the world. Should n’t we think about trying to reverse the situation??

And probably more economic than paying for helicopters, cullers etc etc

 

[I. Farticus]

It kind of shoots down your argument that it’s just pest control when numerous outfits in TX are selling ‘Helicopter Hog Hunts’.

seems like that’s what all the outfits are calling it so that’s what everyone’s going to think of it as.......

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Calling the website 'helibacon' tells me absolutely everything that I need to know

 

[John Gryphon]

What about using some of the wilder areas to create reserve populations of Tigers at the same time controlling Buffalo.

Ha ha I would love that but for Australia the introduced species just don`t stay benign.
Also the buffalo simply would outbreed the tiger population as a tiger at best would only take one a week if that.
There was a plan muted about bringing Rhino`s to the semi arid regions as an anti poaching method,nothing has happened.

Meanwhile our number 1 game animal in Vic is being chopper shot again as I type by Gov agencies. Yes the Sambar Deer and due to the bush cover the tallies are miserable V the hourly expenses. No matter how good the shooters are the bush canopy is thwarting a lot of the shooting