Egun.de

[harrygrey382]

Thinking of buying some stuff off egun.de. I see a few members on here do this, so I just wanted to check a couple of things first:
In general, can you email the sellers in English? Or do you need to translate, and if so what’s a good way?
I see quite a few sellers don’t want PayPal, what’s a good way to transfer funds, preferably with buyer protection?

 

[Dunwaters]

Your going to have to pay vat, duty and possibly a handling fee on top of the usual p+p.
Might be worth an email to check if they’ll ship to the UK now too.
Brexit an all that....

 

[Bavarianbrit]

UK banks do international IBAN transfers.
Why should you expect the egun seller to be english capable?
Do a google translate of your question send it off then google translate again their answer.
Not insurmountable.

 

[Malxwal]

Why not just support a UK based company, has to be easier ?

 

[Dalua]

Why not just support a UK based company, has to be easier ?

Only easier if the items wanted are actually available from a UK-based company at a reasonable price. Not sure what the OP's after, but my own experience is that there's stuff available on eGun which can't be had in the UK at all.

 

[CarlW]

Why should you expect the egun seller to be english capable

Surely most foreign chaps can be made to understand things if one delivers the message loudly and slowly, accompanied by a winning - albeit slightly pitying - smile.

 

[Heym SR20]

Many Germans, and especially those in business do speak reasonable English.

Re VAT. In the past if sending something to another EU country the seller simply charged VAT at their own rate and put this down on their own VAT return.

Now that UK is no longer part of the EU and is a 3rd Party Country, the EU seller does not need to charge VAT on the exported item if VAT is due. And vice versa.

But the fly in outment, under the collaboration agreement, to keep a level playing field, the buyers country will charge VAT on the item at the going rate.

Thus it will be up to the buyer to pay VAT as goods are imported.

This can happen in several ways.

1) Goods held in customs, HMRC contacts the buyer who pays the VAT and goods are released.

2) The shipping agent / courier contacts buyer, buyer pays agent who in turn pays HMRC

3) The seller charges the customer the VAT due at the rate of VAT in the customers country, pays this to the shipper who then pays the VAT.

4) As a number of bigger European countries are currently doing, the Seller registers with UK HMRC, collects UK VAT from UK customers, and settles the VAT due direct with HMRC.

For UK Sellers the same principles apply, but if the UK seller is charging VAT they will have do it at the rate of the recipients own country - ie any one of 27 different rates. And if they choose they need register with 27 different VAT collection agencies and submit 27 different VAT returns each quarter.

Is that clear?

For most SME type business probably not worth the embuggerance.

 

[harrygrey382]

Thanks guys. I’m actually in Australia, but international is international for them surely? I’m after RWS 7x57 brass which is bloody hard to find here and extremely expensive if I can. I’m aware of my import details (I’ll have to pay GST - our version of VAT but only 10%, and that’s only
If they can be bothered which is unusual. Also need an import permit which costs $0), is there a buyers premium added to the egun total? I’ve found the few sellers on eBay.de I’ve used and German suppliers online to have very good English - I wasn’t sure if a poorly translated email would just put them off, was just wondering what others do... if I had a German friend is ask them to translate, but I don’t and I reckon the number of Germans who speak good English is much more than vice versa.

I can do an international bank transfer but it’s pretty slow and no buyer protection. Does egun off it? Not the end of the world as it wouldn’t be a fortune but nice none the less

 

[Malxwal]

My apologies Harry, should have seen you weren't UK based.
And also yes, it can be the case one may have to go further afield than our own borders to obtain stuff.
I'm very much in favour of trying to support our domestic businesses whenever possible though.

 

[Heym SR20]

If you want RWS brass - go to straight to Frankonia - big online presence and will sell new RWS brass - yes expensive but I have ten reloads out of mine.

I would never buy or use 2nd hand “once fired” brass. Most comes from the shooting ranges out of the waste bins - you have no clue whether its genuine once fired or has been reloaded many times.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Here is a way around import duty.
.270 Win must be available in Aus.

 

[Sika98k]

eGun.de works pretty much the same as eBay. There is no buyers premium attached. Whether the seller pays a fee I don’t know. Registering can be a bit of a minefield if your German is as bad as mine !
There is a site called Grauwolf.net . It has all you need in 7x57 cases, Norma, Nosler, PPU, and RWS. I see what you mean the prices are rather eye watering.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

I sell on egun sometimes and I do pay a sellers fee to egun, it arrives to me a a month later as an email only bill with a reference number, the buyer pays nothing, registration to become a buyer/seller is imo easy. I had a **** buy and then renege on the deal as he was not in Germany (him = Denmark) and did not want to pay the 350 euros export paperwork cost quoted to him by Krico after he had won my auction for a 52 euros item. I had to still pay eguns fee.

 

[dartmoordog]

Surely most foreign chaps can be made to understand things if one delivers the message loudly and slowly, accompanied by a winning - albeit slightly pitying - smile.

.........In a German accent.

 

[User00040]

I would never buy or use 2nd hand “once fired” brass. Most comes from the shooting ranges out of the waste bins - you have no clue whether its genuine once fired or has been reloaded many times.

A lot of lower grade factory ammo is being made from recycled brass without issue, some of this brass may have even come through military sources.

Whilst most don't have access to commercial grade annealing machines, so long as they are annealed properly and inspected around the case neck, primer pocket and case head, and do not show cracks/separation/excessive wear, there is no reason not to re-use recovered brass.

I would much rather write off 5 out of 100 pieces of second hand brass and reuse the rest after annealing and re-sizing. So long as they have not been necked-up or down, or reformed to a chambering different from the headstamp.

Even with new brass cases bought exclusively for reloading from reputable names like Norma and Lapua, there is no guarantee that every last piece will not have a dent in it, excessive weight in comparison to the rest or even an off-centre/non-uniform flash hole, unless you can be bothered to write them a letter to moan complain about it.

@harrygrey382 if you use Google Chrome as a browser there should be an option to translate pages to English, which is reasonably accurate.

 

[mereside]

I have bought off egun in the past, very easy and pleasant transaction for a decent unmolested gun that couldn’t be found here, I wouldn’t hesitate to use it again, regards Wayne

 

[harrygrey382]

Thanks guys. If I just need brass I can form from 30-06 which I seemed to have accumulated more than I’ll ever use. I tried a couple and it wasn’t too bad, did get rather sooty cases when fireforming but otherwise ok. I can also source prvi or S&b 7x57 brass here.

It’s the RWS bit that I’m trying to source though. It’s for the rifle I’m building on a Mauser 98, the extractor is just a little loose on some brass (have 10 Norma cases and a couple of the 30-06 cases). Could stone the bearing surface, or get another extractor. I have a hunch the slightly bigger extractor groove of RWS 7x57 brass will be spot on. But also I want RWS brass because it’s the best, and is in keeping with the period Type B build! And I can get a bit obsessive...

My apologies Harry, should have seen you weren't UK based.
And also yes, it can be the case one may have to go further afield than our own borders to obtain stuff.
I'm very much in favour of trying to support our domestic businesses whenever possible though.

No worries - I do agree wit supporting local. Sometimes prices ca just be too extreme, but I do try and practice this. Even down to supporting local shops as opposed to ordering from the big national suppliers. However my local gun shop said they couldn’t get anything RWS 7x57, even loaded ammo.

If you want RWS brass - go to straight to Frankonia - big online presence and will sell new RWS brass - yes expensive but I have ten reloads out of mine.

I’ll check them out thanks

I have bought off egun in the past, very easy and pleasant transaction for a decent unmolested gun that couldn’t be found here, I wouldn’t hesitate to use it again, regards Wayne

What payment methods did you use?

@harrygrey382 if you use Google Chrome as a browser there should be an option to translate pages to English, which is reasonably accurate.

Actually mine seems to be doing it automatically, it’s good enough to navigate by at least. Not sure it would be good enough to write a message with though?

 

[Heym SR20]

I have some RWS ammo in 7x57 as well as Fox (which uses PPU) and Remington. I can measure if that would help

I don’t think you want the extractor too tight on a 98 - a little play helps easy feeding.

 

[harrygrey382]

I have some RWS ammo in 7x57 as well as Fox (which uses PPU) and Remington. I can measure if that would help

I don’t think you want the extractor too tight on a 98 - a little play helps easy feeding.

Thanks - that would actually, especially if your calipers were fine enough to get right into the groove. The fact they generally need a slightly larger shell holder makes me think it’ll work.

You’re right they don’t need to be right, but the extractor should deflect a little as the rim passes through, then once it’s passed the detent (first half of the split bolt lug) the extractor should then relax. So the cartridge then needs to be loose, but can’t drop out. This is how mine behaves with a PMC 30-06 (just - could do with a bit more), but the Norma 7x57 drops straight out

 

[mereside]

Thanks guys. If I just need brass I can form from 30-06 which I seemed to have accumulated more than I’ll ever use. I tried a couple and it wasn’t too bad, did get rather sooty cases when fireforming but otherwise ok. I can also source prvi or S&b 7x57 brass here.

It’s the RWS bit that I’m trying to source though. It’s for the rifle I’m building on a Mauser 98, the extractor is just a little loose on some brass (have 10 Norma cases and a couple of the 30-06 cases). Could stone the bearing surface, or get another extractor. I have a hunch the slightly bigger extractor groove of RWS 7x57 brass will be spot on. But also I want RWS brass because it’s the best, and is in keeping with the period Type B build! And I can get a bit obsessive...



No worries - I do agree wit supporting local. Sometimes prices ca just be too extreme, but I do try and practice this. Even down to supporting local shops as opposed to ordering from the big national suppliers. However my local gun shop said they couldn’t get anything RWS 7x57, even loaded ammo.

I’ll check them out thanks


What payment methods did you use?


Actually mine seems to be doing it automatically, it’s good enough to navigate by at least. Not sure it would be good enough to write a message with though?

I payed via TransferWise which again I use quite a bit for payments in Europe, regards Wayne