Not me! I reload so that i can fire rounds without seeing the bank balance drop too quickly. If i got out bunny bashing with a 222 i might shoot 20-40 rounds. If i do that 3 times per week it'll soon get expensive. Then on top we count my 243 and 300wm. I shoot my 300wm plenty, i'd hate to shoot it at the volume i do with factory prices. I load it for roughly £1 a bang give or take, I couldn't do that with factory.
I agree, it takes time and must be done or you risk bad things, as you well know. Idk why more don't read the caution section of printed load manuals.
So now you know what? cases stretch in the sizer die, trim them
I also shoot a R93 in .222 Rem. I only F/L size every 4th or 5th cycle. This is then also coherent with the need to trim the cases.Typically it's my Blaser R93 .222 that needs the cases trimming. I full length resize which often means i need to trim .001-003 thou off everytime, which i guess will eventually lead to a case head separation? I've always been told to FL resize for a blaser so lets not go down that rabbit hole.
I guess i need to do some trimming then, FYI the .005 example in my opening post was just a worst case, not actually what they are.
Measure after firing, then after sizing. No sarcasm intended, the shoulder forms to the chamber, when you push it back the neck gets longer. look at the post where phillips 321 posted the dimensions before and after sizing.
Creedmor owner?
No sarcasm taken - the Gods did not bless me with much, but on the plus side, totally forgot to give me an ego.
I don't understand this at all. As I mentioned earlier, I use a Lee trim die for all three of the calibres I reload for, along with the Lee Quick Trim deluxe, and it literally takes a couple of seconds per case. It also serves as a valuable opportunity for me to give each case a final once-over prior to charging and bullet-seating
I have a slightly different approach to case trimming as I trim to the shortest case in the LOT. This makes it a little more complicated. I measure each case, setting the shortest to the side until I find one shorter to replace it. When I find it, I use that case to set the cutter on my Forster, and trim the rest. I can measure 50 cases witha dial calipers in a few minutes. It's time consuming but I make up for it by having an exceptionally good powder meter that allows me throw accurate charges straight into the case. No weighing and trickling. On a rainy afternoon with time to kill I'll use my TargetMaster just for the fun of watchng it work.
Ah, I see. I don't worry about measuring my cases as I just trim them using the Lee die. I envy you being able to throw straight to the cases. In fact, I now have a slightly bitter twist to my mouth, and I can actually feel my eyes have narrowed
IMHO the clue is in “tame loads”. I too use mid-range charges in all my reloading, particularly the 222 and it is only infrequently that you will see any major difference (usually from different manufacturers/brass quality) in length BEFORE resizing - as per earlier post. I know from hard experience long ago that the hotter the load, the longer the fired case will be, the greater the working of the brass, the greater the wear on the brass, the need for more frequent trimming and as a result the shorter the life of said brass - frequently the cause of incipient case separation. As before - for all my stalking needs and the distances I shoot I simply do not need or use “hot loads”. I have no recollection of any fox or deer ever running on after they were fairly hit by a bullet travelling c.100/200 fps slower than the round could have been. Importantly and for clarity that is not to say that for the much longer ranges frequently seen in for example the US, a stouter charge is not appropriate, in terms of achieving optimum bullet performance alone the additional speed is de rigeur.
How are you measuring the 0.005 thou?
