Suspended Gralloch... WHY?!

Have a look at B&D Stalking for one of their excellent kits. Its on a locking ratchet so makes it very easy. Just try and remember to not forget the hook. :rolleyes: :lol:6AB6740A-A445-4116-8AF1-E821166DEC36.jpeg



Do I need to carry the generator to operate it on my back whilst stalking? because I have tried the hand pull jobs sold by the likes of bushwear and I cannot suspend an adult fallow by myself, Ive tried a few whilst in Suffolk and new forest.
 
It isn’t necessary on hygiene or any other grounds.
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It’s a north south thing, pros versus recreational stalkers. On the open hill and in the conifer forest it isn’t an option and there is often time pressure to get the numbers.
Pros leave the kinky dungeon kit at home, recreationalists can take everything and the kitchen sink out, find a suitable tree and make a performance art out of the whole process. :lol:
 
I hadn’t realised we were being asked for sweeping generalisations ;)

Practical considerations aside, it comes down to whether you are treating deer as a pest to be controlled, or something to be disposed of at the game dealer, as opposed to treating them as a source of food. If the latter, why wouldn’t you want to end up with the cleanest carcass possible?
 
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The solution is simple, no effort required. Quad bike with trailer carrying a Donington Deer Gralloching hoist, disconnect the trailer and assemble the hoist using the tow ball. Lift deer and process, the height is infinitely variable during the process for comfort. Lower deer into the tray in the trailer and pack the hoist along side then connect the trailer back up and go. No bending no lifting no dragging, what could be better then drive the whole lot on to the plant trailer behind the Range Rover or what ever.
I am still saving up at the moment I have one pair of gloves a mora and a length of old seat belt
 
The solution is simple, no effort required. Quad bike with trailer carrying a Donington Deer Gralloching hoist, disconnect the trailer and assemble the hoist using the tow ball. Lift deer and process, the height is infinitely variable during the process for comfort. Lower deer into the tray in the trailer and pack the hoist along side then connect the trailer back up and go. No bending no lifting no dragging, what could be better then drive the whole lot on to the plant trailer behind the Range Rover or what ever.
I am still saving up at the moment I have one pair of gloves a mora and a length of old seat belt
A challenge at the moment though, as the Donnington Deer Management website is still down :(
 
It isn’t necessary on hygiene or any other grounds.
and
It’s a north south thing, pros versus recreational stalkers. On the open hill and in the conifer forest it isn’t an option and there is often time pressure to get the numbers.
Pros leave the kinky dungeon kit at home, recreationalists can take everything and the kitchen sink out, find a suitable tree and make a performance art out of the whole process. :lol:
Seen some Pro work ...........................................................:rolleyes::-|
 
For anyone who's stalking close to their larder I can heartily recommend the carcass prep unit / tilting cradle manufactured by Keith's Highseats. I use one for the full gralloch on all of my park deer now. The wheeled version is handy for moving carcasses around as well, for example from vehicle to chiller. I find this a great help as I'm not strong enough to manually lift a carcass anymore due to my medical condition. I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
For wild deer, when I started stalking I was hauling them up on a tree and doing a full gralloch, but then often managed to contaminate the carcass during the drag back to the vehicle. So now I just do a green gralloch using minimal cuts, usually on the ground, and then complete the job either back at the larder (using the prep unit described above) or with them up off the ground when I'm back at the vehicle (either on the tailgate or suspended off the rear door of the ifor-williams canopy) if it's not convenient to take the carcass home straight away.
Morning VSS

Dont suppose youve got a pic of one mate by any chance

cheers

phil
 
I hadn’t realised we were being asked for sweeping generalisations ;)

Practical considerations aside, it comes down to whether you are treating deer as a pest to be controlled, or something to be disposed of at the game dealer, as opposed to treating them as a source of food. If the latter, why wouldn’t you want to end up with the cleanest carcass possible?
I do them on the ground, i have already outlined why and I can assure you and anyone else that my carcases are as cleaner or cleaner than anyone else. Deer should ALKWAYS be treated with respect and anyone who doesn't has no right to be out killing them.
 
Suspended gralloch is must easier on the back. Gravity helps as you only have to touch the blade on it and the tension makes the cut. Blood drops straight on to the floor. I love the fact the stomach cavity is free from any blood too. Since I started doing suspended grallochs I haven't done another one on the floor.
If you have a tractor or electric winch I will agree, but out in the field you could not be further fro the truth.
I suffered a broken back during a stalking accident. this was many years ago and it has resulted in a constant battle with pain and mobility. this has resulted in myself finding the easiest and most pain free ways of doing things.
Walk up to a forest stag live weight lets say 20 stone[small] and you have two choices. the first is to spend ten to fifteen minutes and have the animal clean and ready for the larder and a good 6 stone lighter.
or Second, find a suitable tree, drag the 20 stone to the tree, get the hoist in place and then get the animal suspended, if there are two of you and both young and strong you will succeed, but at what cost?maybe just maybe you'll get it done in time, but almost for certain you have taken longer than vets recommended time limit for evisceration. I can understand it if you drive to your kill site, shoot the beast and use your truck to help you hoist the animal in some way. And as for the hoist on the back of a 4 wheel bike/quad, don't talk silly, you then have to go and get a tractor or gang of people to put it back on its wheels.. NoI shall stick to getting them done on the shot site and finish up at the larder and KNOW in my heart that it could not have been done better.
 
What defines someone as a 'Pro'?
Whether they pay to shoot deer or are paid to shoot deer.
Morning VSS

Dont suppose youve got a pic of one mate by any chance

cheers

phil
See post #76 by @willie_gunn
I only started using the prep cradle at the beginning of this season, but I wouldn't want to be without it now. Made everything so much easier when I get back to the larder with a deer. I also use it when skinning, after hanging deer in fur for a week.
 
If you have a tractor or electric winch I will agree, but out in the field you could not be further fro the truth.
I suffered a broken back during a stalking accident. this was many years ago and it has resulted in a constant battle with pain and mobility. this has resulted in myself finding the easiest and most pain free ways of doing things.
Walk up to a forest stag live weight lets say 20 stone[small] and you have two choices. the first is to spend ten to fifteen minutes and have the animal clean and ready for the larder and a good 6 stone lighter.
or Second, find a suitable tree, drag the 20 stone to the tree, get the hoist in place and then get the animal suspended, if there are two of you and both young and strong you will succeed, but at what cost?maybe just maybe you'll get it done in time, but almost for certain you have taken longer than vets recommended time limit for evisceration. I can understand it if you drive to your kill site, shoot the beast and use your truck to help you hoist the animal in some way. And as for the hoist on the back of a 4 wheel bike/quad, don't talk silly, you then have to go and get a tractor or gang of people to put it back on its wheels.. NoI shall stick to getting them done on the shot site and finish up at the larder and KNOW in my heart that it could not have been done better.
If you're dealing with 20 stone animals or anything even close to it you're almost certainly going to need help in the form of more man power or mechanical help to get it back to the larder regardless of if you're gralloching on the floor or suspended. It's pretty obvious that if you don't have a sky hook anywhere near then a field gralloch will help reduce the burden on the human body. However, if you can get a mechanical handling device near enough to load it up then a suspended gralloch is far easier on the back. You can even change the height of the beast as you do different stages so it's always the perfect height and no bending down. Gravity is also a huge help as bit's and pieces only go one way and fluids are never swilling about where you're trying to cut. I make a rule that once a beast leaves the floor for the first time it never goes back on the floor again. Your field gralloched may be just as good but they certainly cant be better. I don't need to wipe anything out because it falls out all by itself. What could be easier?
 
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