What Scotland's programme of government means for shooting

[Conor O'Gorman]

An overview in the link below from Ross Ewing, BASC Scotland Public Affairs Manager, on the Scottish Government's programme and our position on proposals that could impact on shooting.

What Scotland’s programme for government means for shooting - The British Association for Shooting and Conservation

BASC Scotland’s public affairs manager, Ross Ewing, reflects on the key policies within Scotland’s newly unveiled programme for government.

basc.org.uk

 

[User00026]

Not sure the Scottish government will listen to a word BASC has to say to be honest,
But a fair shot at it nonetheless.

 

[gerarddwatts]

The Scottish Govt now have a track record of ignoring their own committees and consultation, so there is not much fear of them listening to anyone if what they say doesn't fit the SNP/Greenblob agenda.

 

[Malxwal]

The Scottish Govt now have a track record of ignoring their own committees and consultation, so there is not much fear of them listening to anyone if what they say doesn't fit the SNP/Greenblob agenda.

Correct. Unfortunately, we now live in a dictatorship, with all mention of looking at science/evidence etc merely spin on their part. Pack in work, come and live in the Hoots Mon Och Aye the Noo Jimmy People's Republic, where everything is free, green, and gender neutral.

 

[saddler]

From memory the public consultation on the proposed airgun licence had something like 74% reply as NOT in favour of legislation or further controls - the Forth Reich ignored it as it was not in line with their agenda; following the SNP grooming of the drugged-up parents of the toddler who sadly died at the hands of their drug dealer pal, who was given the airgun he used to fatally injure said toddler as payment of a drug debt....by the toddlers parents. The grieving family were given a huge make-over to then get used as U.I.'s in front of the bought & paid for SNP-friendly meeja; can't have folk with crack smoker teeth sitting in front of the cameras pretending to be normal members of society.

All along, the Holyrood Kommissars have stated that their airWEAPONS "ban" is stage one of their plan to remove all privately owned firearms from Scotland.
Given their track record of everything the SNP touches turning to prime bull effluent, I don't see their plans in this area turning out different in any way....but at least they can use the saving lives rhetoric of removing the murder kill death weapons of mass destruction "...from the streets..." as a distraction away from the several hundred nursing home deaths, hospital deaths, illegal drug user deaths, etc. which they've project managed as a side line to the real issue affecting Scotland today - Indy2 as a path to independent EU membership.

 

[gerarddwatts]

We were promised that there was no need for a 'reforming house' such as the House of Lords in the new Scottish devolved governance. We were promised that consultations and committees would fill this function much better.

Instead we now have a shameful bunch of chancers who misuse their majority....not even their own but fabricated by partnerships with minority groupings at Holyrood..... If the Scottish voters had wanted Green politicians in government, they would have voted for them: they didn't.

The original hunting bill? The 'committee' said it wasn't needed. Ignore the committee. Air guns? The consultationsaid no need for change...everything that was wrong about mis-use of air weapons was already illegal....ignore the consultation. Bonomy report into fox control? Ignore the consultation. Mountain hares? Allow a last minute amendment, never consulted or examined by a committee. Even SNP MSPs agreed that this was a travesty....yet, don't ever forget.... they still voted for it.

The demographic in Scotland is such that the nation will always be governed by tribunes elected from the central belt; the voters there have no knowledge or interest in the huge area outwith the urban sprawl; they are all too easily distracted by flags, meanwhile giving this grossly incompetent bunch a free ride. I'd always hoped that the Scottish voter was canny enough to see through this charade of governance.....now I'm not so sure. Sad and depressing.

 

[NullMac]

removing the murder kill death weapons of mass destruction "...from the streets..."

I am not sure I am with you on tone, but I am pretty ****ed of that Police Scotland describe firearms surrendered to them as "weapons" "removed from the streets". While some of them clearly were. I would be surprised if the knackered old stalking rifle was ever on the streets. Neither was my totally useless 10/22 that I surrendered. It makes you wary of co-operating if your proper act is deliberately misrepresented for political gain.

Let's discuss this at my renewal as part of the Social Media review....

 

[Heym SR20]

We were promised that there was no need for a 'reforming house' such as the House of Lords in the new Scottish devolved governance. We were promised that consultations and committees would fill this function much better.

Instead we now have a shameful bunch of chancers who misuse their majority....not even their own but fabricated by partnerships with minority groupings at Holyrood..... If the Scottish voters had wanted Green politicians in government, they would have voted for them: they didn't.

The original hunting bill? The 'committee' said it wasn't needed. Ignore the committee. Air guns? The consultationsaid no need for change...everything that was wrong about mis-use of air weapons was already illegal....ignore the consultation. Bonomy report into fox control? Ignore the consultation. Mountain hares? Allow a last minute amendment, never consulted or examined by a committee. Even SNP MSPs agreed that this was a travesty....yet, don't ever forget.... they still voted for it.

The demographic in Scotland is such that the nation will always be governed by tribunes elected from the central belt; the voters there have no knowledge or interest in the huge area outwith the urban sprawl; they are all too easily distracted by flags, meanwhile giving this grossly incompetent bunch a free ride. I'd always hoped that the Scottish voter was canny enough to see through this charade of governance.....now I'm not so sure. Sad and depressing.

And sadly we can say pretty about Westminster and Boris’s lot - they are ploughing with their own agenda regardless of any intervention by advisors, government committees, house of lords or even legal intervention by the courts.

I don’t necessarily agree with it, but there is now a strong sentiment in Scotland that we rather rather be run directly by the lunatic asylum we have directly elected, rather by the by the lunatic asylum that is only interested in a little bit of the South East of England.

I was in Northern Ireland last week - what a breath of fresh air. Good roads, good infrastructure, really clean and ready welcoming and friendly. In most of England snd Scotland you need a 4x4 just to drive on any of the roads.

 

[NullMac]

I'd always hoped that the Scottish voter was canny enough to see through this charade of governance.....now I'm not so sure. Sad and depressing.

And the alternative is...equally incompetent.

There is a long list of poor legislation and near legislation. Sectarianism, Removal of Corroboration, Childs Named Person etc etc. This is really a result of the quality of people and their experience that is attracted by the Parliament, irrespective of where they hail from. They all seem to want to persecute minorities at the same time as telling us Scotland is a unique country because of its inclusion of minorities.

You get what you vote for. We can still all leave, there is no Borders Wall.

 

[Pedro]

Overwhelming majorities are the enemy of the people. That’s as much true with Nippy up north as Boris down south. Except with differing agendas. But, really, for the people, what was the difference between Nazi Germany and the USSR? To use extreme examples that is.

The thing is, though, eventually they go too far and their majorities crumble away. Usually.

 

[levigsp]

Great Britain along with others like the USA fought the cold war against communism for 40 years or so, so we would never lose our freedoms, freedom of speech etc.
However although the cold war has made it into the realm of history, we are now run by a communist state.
We used to say things like, imagine if the media lied to us daily, imagine if we could not say what we believed.
Guess what thats exactly what we have, slightly worse in Scotland in some respects, somewhat like Rumania was in the 70s, but England is not much better.