Trophy imports ban

I have only been to South Africa once, the bill to import my trophies hurt.

I hunt for the memories, a photograph will suffice, not being allowed to import my trophies, is unlikely to change how much I hunt abroad.
 
Paragraph 2 on the listed Bill What a joke!

Registration of existing hunting trophies (1) Hunting trophies imported into the United Kingdom prior to this Act coming 20 into force shall be registered with the Secretary of State. (2) The owner of the hunting trophy must— (a) give their name and address; (b) 25 provide a description of the item and of any distinguishing features that it has; Bill 89 58/2 Hunting Trophy Import (Prohibition) Bill 1 (c) provide a photograph of the item showing any such features; (d) make a declaration that the item was imported prior to the enactment of the legislation; (e) 5 provide documentation relating to its importation, including proof of date of importation; (f) provide proof of provenance, and if of a CITES-listed species, evidence of the relevant CITES permit
Is this ^^^ likely to become law, does anybody know?
I have a pile of big game heads that came from Botswana originally. They were given to me about 30 years ago. I don't even know what species some of them are, I have no idea when they were imported or by who (presumably by the chap who gave them to me, who I lost touch with many years ago) and there's certainly no documentation.
 
Is this ^^^ likely to become law, does anybody know?
I have a pile of big game heads that came from Botswana originally. They were given to me about 30 years ago. I don't even know what species some of them are, I have no idea when they were imported or by who (presumably by the chap who gave them to me, who I lost touch with many years ago) and there's certainly no documentation.
Chuck some photos of the heads on here mate im sure you will get answers quickly.

Josh
 
Chuck some photos of the heads on here mate im sure you will get answers quickly.

Josh
Yes, I could get an answer to what species they are, but with the best will in the world no-one on here can provide the other information required for registration, eg, when imported and by who, or provide me with documentation.
 
Yes, I could get an answer to what species they are, but with the best will in the world no-one on here can provide the other information required for registration, eg, when imported and by who, or provide me with documentation.
Yes sorry it was more addressing the not knowing species point
 
I believe these measures where included in a private members bill put forward by a Labour MP. They were debated yesterday but ran out of time (rescheduled for January). This is not the bill that Defra announced yesterday.
 
Is this ^^^ likely to become law, does anybody know?
I have a pile of big game heads that came from Botswana originally. They were given to me about 30 years ago. I don't even know what species some of them are, I have no idea when they were imported or by who (presumably by the chap who gave them to me, who I lost touch with many years ago) and there's certainly no documentation.

I think your ok. Let me try find the exemptions list again but it was quite specific they where hunting trophies only
 
I have only been to South Africa once, the bill to import my trophies hurt.

I hunt for the memories, a photograph will suffice, not being allowed to import my trophies, is unlikely to change how much I hunt abroad.
Indeed, this isn't the end of the world.
It's still possible to hunt in Africa and elsewhere if that's your ambition, but from late 2022 it will no longer be permitted to bring trophies back into the UK.


QUOTE:- The new ban will apply to imports of hunting trophies from endangered and threatened animals into Great Britain, supporting long-term species conservation and protecting some of the world’s most endangered and threatened animals – including the frequently killed ‘Big Five’ (lions, leopards, rhinos, elephants and buffalos).

In the last 50 years, there has been a 60% decline in wildlife globally. This ban will be among the toughest in the world and will protect a range of species including nearly 6,000 animals that are currently threatened by international trade. The Ban will also cover over 1,000 additional species which are considered near-threatened or worse, such as African buffalo, zebra and reindeer – going further than the Government’s initial manifesto commitment to prohibit the import of hunting trophies from endangered species.

The Government consulted on a ban in 2019 and we received over 44,000 responses which showed clear public and conservation group support for tighter restrictions with 86% supporting further action.
 
Indeed, this isn't the end of the world.
It's still possible to hunt in Africa and elsewhere if that's your ambition, but from late 2022 it will no longer be permitted to bring trophies back into the UK.


QUOTE:- The new ban will apply to imports of hunting trophies from endangered and threatened animals into Great Britain, supporting long-term species conservation and protecting some of the world’s most endangered and threatened animals – including the frequently killed ‘Big Five’ (lions, leopards, rhinos, elephants and buffalos).

In the last 50 years, there has been a 60% decline in wildlife globally. This ban will be among the toughest in the world and will protect a range of species including nearly 6,000 animals that are currently threatened by international trade. The Ban will also cover over 1,000 additional species which are considered near-threatened or worse, such as African buffalo, zebra and reindeer – going further than the Government’s initial manifesto commitment to prohibit the import of hunting trophies from endangered species.

The Government consulted on a ban in 2019 and we received over 44,000 responses which showed clear public and conservation group support for tighter restrictions with 86% supporting further action.

Does seem a bit mad to go all the way to Africa and not be able to take even a skull back though. Wonder if kudu etc will be on the list. Can’t see a specific list for the ban. Just articles stating that it’s coming into effect.
 
Does seem a bit mad to go all the way to Africa and not be able to take even a skull back though. Wonder if kudu etc will be on the list. Can’t see a specific list for the ban. Just articles stating that it’s coming into effect.
I find that strange, I've done 20+ african species and never brought a trophy home. Some excellent deals on cull packages available aswell.
Josh
 
What gets me is they have taken the choice away from the individual because it’s something they find offensive,no thought has gone into the wider problems that this may cause.This is why I said earlier I wonder if anyone of them bothered to look at the letter sent over by people who will suffer.I think that when somebody tried to read it out it was blocked but I may be wrong.
 
Nicolaj Bichel has posted a 23 tweet demolition of the "7000 species" mentioned. His language gets a bit strong at points. This could be because he has done his Ph.D on trophy hunting, and it will be published as a a book, so he knows rather more than George Eustice. Hugh Webster has done a good article on wordpress about the widespread conservation implications of such a ban. There is a link via his twitter feed. You do not have to sign up to twitter to see this stuff, only to follow further links.
 
I find that strange, I've done 20+ african species and never brought a trophy home. Some excellent deals on cull packages available aswell.
Josh

It’s horses for courses I suppose. I like to keep a momento,(on top of a photo) where I can. Be it a pin feather from a woodcock or whatever. Even if I did a cull hunt, I’d still like to be able to take a skull mount back. They wouldn’t have to be Rowland and ward so to speak.
 
It’s horses for courses I suppose. I like to keep a momento,(on top of a photo) where I can. Be it a pin feather from a woodcock or whatever. Even if I did a cull hunt, I’d still like to be able to take a skull mount back. They wouldn’t have to be Rowland and ward so to speak.
Exactly that it doesn’t have to be the biggest or the best animal if it’s personal to you why should you not be allowed to bring something back.No this is not just about trophy hunting it’s about killing animals in the first place.
 
Just wondering, would a ban include the whole of the UK or would NI, Wales and Scotland be free to go their own way?
 
Long gone are the days when you could head off into and shoot what you wanted.

Nowadays in most parts of the world all hunting is closely controlled with very strict quota’s, licences etc etc. and you can only shoot what is on licence. Sport hunting has not lead to species bring threatened. What has :

1) man encroaching on wild areas with loss of habitat etc due to logging, agriculture, urban development etc etc

2) uncontrolled poaching for meat and other animal products

3) government policy enabling / allowing all of the above.

So in Scotland, for example, SNP policy is to shoot all the deer. Very soon we will have few deer and they will go on the red list. Windfarms have drained upland peat bogs leading to loss of habitat, leading to loss of species etc etc.
 
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