Bore snake Vs cleaning rod
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Lost accuracy on my swede Tikka' always ran a patch through the barrel after use, "Covid no shooting FOR A LONG PERIOD" When first time back on a practice range day I could not believe my tack driver was bending the tack! So put back in the car. At home it was hard to rod' through? It was only after several difficult worrying passes with the Bore snake that the barrel returned to what I could feel to be normal,thanks to my Bore snake problem solved.
BC.
BC.
Only way to settle the debate is to take two brand new rifles of same chambering/calibre and shoot 100 rounds through both.
'Clean' one with a boresnake and the other with a proper cleaning rod of correct diameter and length, 'parker hale' type jags with tight fitting round patches and quality phosphor bronze brushes, plus good solvents.
Then check with borescope.
'Clean' one with a boresnake and the other with a proper cleaning rod of correct diameter and length, 'parker hale' type jags with tight fitting round patches and quality phosphor bronze brushes, plus good solvents.
Then check with borescope.
Steff
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I also wash my rod after every use ….
Marchman
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Surely someone has done this already. Waiting for a comment to see the result.
That is not the debate as far as I am concerned. Two separate processes.
I use a boresnake every time I take the rifle out to remove oil before I shoot, and after I shoot to remove any condensation formed in a cold barrel entering a warm/humid house atmosphere. Followed by a bore snake loaded with CLP for storage.
I do a chemical clean with Wipe Out, rod, brush and patches every couple of hundred shots when/if I remember...
It is not a case of one or the other, they both have their functions.
Alan
Was it a genuine Bore Snake? Was it the right diameter? I have never broken the chord nor have I worried about it.~Muir
If it is any help, consider the relative surface area.
Used as I do to remove condensation, the first 12mm of the boresnake is roughly equivalent to a patch, the remainder of the 800mm bore snake is in contact with a progressively cleaner / drier bore...and thus the bore is in contact with a progressively cleaner / drier area of the boresnake. The last 12mm section of the boresnake is the equivalent of the 64th patch you have pulled through.
How many patches do you normally use until they come clean?
I do wash the boresnake regularly and it is kept clean in a Barnes bullet box.
Alan
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The thread title is literally 'Bore snake Vs cleaning rod'...
Scotty99
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I’d recommend a plastic covered cleaning rod and a good bore guide (Shooting Shed custom made for to your chamber size are the best).
The trouble with bore snakes is that they could break as mentioned above but more importantly they are liable to cause wear in the inside of the crown lip as you pull them through as it’s unlikely to come out in a straight line no matter how hard you try.
The trouble with bore snakes is that they could break as mentioned above but more importantly they are liable to cause wear in the inside of the crown lip as you pull them through as it’s unlikely to come out in a straight line no matter how hard you try.
I know. My post was a shameful thread sidetrack wasn't it?
I dare say the OP won't mind too much, he hasn't been by for a few years.But I don't see the two systems as being either one or the other "as far as I am concerned" and therefore still do not agree the premise.
I have been consistent...even by the 9th post 6 years ago back in February 2016 I was colluding in sidetracking the thread by querying a post about C2R and mentioning that I used both boresnake and rod depending on the circumstance.
Alan
foxdropper
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Yea but no but ………
You should know by now that ‘title ‘means nothing and can be bended to suit .
Quite correct sir.
I'm sure there's a lot of other things liable to go wrong with a rifle before you have to start worrying about the detrimental effects of infrequent contact with a piece of string. I reckon you'd have to be doing something pretty dumb with your boresnake - like covering it with cutting paste - before it would cause appreciable wear within the lifetime of a barrel that's designed to cope with the effects of the passage of numerous lumps of hot metal at 3,000 fps.
In a previous thread on the same subject I mentioned that I've had a boresnake get stuck in the barrel of my .308.
Yes, it was a genuine boresnake, and I had to take it to a gunsmith to remove it.
Saw the same thing almost ruin someone else's driven boar trip to Croatia. They had to soak the stuck boresnake overnight in oil, tie the end to a branch, and then hang off it until it freed
From what I've seen the problem occurs where the trailing material behind the bronze brushes ends up with snags or pulls, effectively increasing the boresnake's diameter to the point where it can no longer clear the chamber. I'm not sure what purpose such a long length of material actually serves, as you surely don't need that length to clear any debris dislodged by the brush itself? Maybe it's as simple as Hoppes would find it harder to justify the price of a boresnake if they made one with a smaller length of trailing fabric? If clearing debris is indeed the argument, one wonders how cleaning systems like the VFG work, which I also use on the very rare occasions I give the barrel a deep clean.
I still use boresnakes, both before and after going out stalking, but now cut that large part of the trailing material off behind the brushes. This has made no discernible difference to either the boresnake's effectiveness or the rifle's accuracy, but it easily and permanently removes the possibility of it getting stuck.
If you've used them for years with no problem, kick on.
Yes, it was a genuine boresnake, and I had to take it to a gunsmith to remove it.
Saw the same thing almost ruin someone else's driven boar trip to Croatia. They had to soak the stuck boresnake overnight in oil, tie the end to a branch, and then hang off it until it freed
From what I've seen the problem occurs where the trailing material behind the bronze brushes ends up with snags or pulls, effectively increasing the boresnake's diameter to the point where it can no longer clear the chamber. I'm not sure what purpose such a long length of material actually serves, as you surely don't need that length to clear any debris dislodged by the brush itself? Maybe it's as simple as Hoppes would find it harder to justify the price of a boresnake if they made one with a smaller length of trailing fabric? If clearing debris is indeed the argument, one wonders how cleaning systems like the VFG work, which I also use on the very rare occasions I give the barrel a deep clean.
I still use boresnakes, both before and after going out stalking, but now cut that large part of the trailing material off behind the brushes. This has made no discernible difference to either the boresnake's effectiveness or the rifle's accuracy, but it easily and permanently removes the possibility of it getting stuck.
If you've used them for years with no problem, kick on.
I tend to spray the barrel with a light oil (Napier/legia) then soak the end of the bore snake in oil that way it softens any debris prior to the bore snake going through and the oiled tail leaves a film of oil in the barrel to protect from corrosion.
Regards,
Gixer
Regards,
Gixer
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