Hardox gongs and the .22lr

[oxfordshirestalker]

Hi folks,
I’m considering buying some hardox gongs from Tom’s Targets or similar for a bit of fun trying to shoot out a bit further than I normally do (not that I’m keen on shooting deer at any longer distances than I already do).
I’d also like to have a bit of fun with the .22lr on the gongs too but I’m slightly concerned about the ricochet potential. How have others found shooting subsonics at similar targets? An absolute nightmare or not too bad? Thanks

 

[Tim.243]

Hi folks,
I’m considering buying some hardox gongs from Tom’s Targets or similar for a bit of fun trying to shoot out a bit further than I normally do (not that I’m keen on shooting deer at any longer distances than I already do).
I’d also like to have a bit of fun with the .22lr on the gongs too but I’m slightly concerned about the ricochet potential. How have others found shooting subsonics at similar targets? An absolute nightmare or not too bad? Thanks

ping.............................

 

[Alantoo]

I would be much more concerned with ricochet potential from any centre fire on a Hardox gong.

Long range / 22LR the bullet trajectory will be falling onto the target unless you are shooting up a cliff...if you suspend the gong so it angles down it will be very difficult for the bullet to deflect upwards...sideways maybe.

Alan

 

[Tim.243]

Miss a rabbit on Stoney ground/harvest time and you will hear Ping...............

When I used to shoot a lot I would shoulder shoot them as fine taking head shots but hard ground and ping is not to my liking.

 

[nun_hunter]

Depending how you hang the targets you can get them to lean forward so the inevitable deflection goes (for the majority) downward into the grass. If you clip the target (with any bullet) it's likely to ricochet off anywhere so a decent backstop is still needed.

 

[One on top of two]

If there on hanging on chains you won’t get ricochets , bullet will either just break up on contact or if running out of steam they will just drop on floor as the hanging plate soaks up the remaining kinetic energy .
I have a few of these around farm , some of them out at just over 1K .

 

[Tim.243]

Depending how you hang the targets you can get them to lean forward so the inevitable deflection goes (for the majority) downward into the grass. If you clip the target (with any bullet) it's likely to ricochet off anywhere so a decent backstop is still needed.

As we never know which direction the the round could go, the back stop will be behind the target, however if and when they do go ping and we don't see the puff of dust into the back stop
Where do they go? Answer we don't know as it could not be the back stop.

 

[Tim.243]

If there on hanging on chains you won’t get ricochets , bullet will either just break up on contact or if running out of steam they will just drop on floor as the hanging plate soaks up the remaining kinetic energy .
I have a few of these around farm , out of them out at just over 1K .
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And in the real world where do they go?

 

[One on top of two]

Where do what go ?

 

[Tim.243]

Where do what go ?

The remains of the round that went ping or ricocheted....thought the hardox target was the hard part not working out

Where do what go?

 

[One on top of two]

The remains of the round that went ping or ricocheted....thought the hardox target was the hard part not working out

Where do what go?

I have edited it and I apologise Tim.243 for my comment, I’m not getting drawn in it haha

Maybe you should go and watch practical shooting at a club there’s plenty to chose from then your see what happens when shooting steel plates with pistol calibres and shotguns at 5 - 20 m. In front of you . ( great fun I might add )
To the OP
Your fine with your rimfire and AR500 / Hardox gongs so just crack one . But as with ALL calibres be mindful of your backstop and surroundings.

 

[bowji john]

I Shoot .22LR at hardox targets every day of the week

Rarely do we get a ricochet - on the rare occasions that we do it is probably because the round caught the edge or hit the chain

If it really concerns you and you are on open ground with a risk of a round leaving your land then in addition to good backstops, consider placing gongs within a box surrounded by sand (bags) or earth - that will help contain everything

Perhaps greater risk of ricochet if gongs located on open fields - attention to location, safety zones and direction of fire is vital

Gongs make good practice targets

Paint them white with ‘line paint’ and you can easily see your impacts

A quick re spray and away you go again

 

[DavyG]

don’t shoot much steel do you as You obviously haven’t got an absolute clue about which your talking about , you arrogant arsehole ! Maybe you should go and watch practical shooting at a club there’s plenty to chose from then your see what happens when shooting steel plates with pistol calibres and shotguns at 5 - 20 m. In front of you . ( great fun I might add )


To the OP
Your fine with your rimfire and AR500 / Hardox gongs so just crack one . But as with ALL calibres be mindful of your backstop and surroundings.

Nothing like a bit of “friendly discussion” on a Sunday morning…

 

[Tim.243]

Maybe you should go and watch practical shooting at a club there’s plenty to chose from then your see what happens when shooting steel plates with pistol calibres and shotguns at 5 - 20 m. In front of you . ( great fun I might add )
To the OP
Your fine with your rimfire and AR500 / Hardox gongs so just crack one . But as with ALL calibres be mindful of your backstop and surroundings.

Playing cowboys should be done with plastic colt 45's
Having shot the same .22 since I was 12 and being 61 this year my experience is in the field which has far more consequences than.........

 

[DavyG]

Maybe you should go and watch practical shooting at a club there’s plenty to chose from then your see what happens when shooting steel plates with pistol calibres and shotguns at 5 - 20 m. In front of you . ( great fun I might add )
To the OP
Your fine with your rimfire and AR500 / Hardox gongs so just crack one . But as with ALL calibres be mindful of your backstop and surroundings.

I think that something more than an apology is required in this case. The man is quite obviously shocked and deeply hurt by your outburst…hence his failure to respond (most unusual for Tim)…a monetary compensation may well be in order.
DG

 

[Strongman]

I have not shot swinging steels but looking at this from an engineering perspective I would agree that the energy is taken out of a round upon impact on a swinging steel. This, however, it only 100% effective if you are perfectly perpendicular to the target, which of course is difficult. Introduce any angle and there will be a ricochet risk and some energy will be retained, especially in a 22lr as the projectile will not fragment. If the target can be angled down this will mitigate the issue to some extent but awareness of backstop to rear and sides should be considered.

 

[Tim.243]

Nothing like a bit of “friendly discussion” on a Sunday morning…
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Guess not...know who made that 25mm thick AR450 target.

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Never shoot steel not me...nor buy them.

 

[Tim.243]

I think that something more than an apology is required in this case. The man is quite obviously shocked and deeply hurt by your outburst…hence his failure to respond (most unusual for Tim)…a monetary compensation may well be in order.
DG

Off out for my weekly shop so might by the expensive ice cream and send him the receipt....

 

[Ade8mm]

Good to see "The Gong Show" is back

 

[Tim.243]

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