Deer Stalking Syndicate Recommendations? A1 or shooting.sh
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Jimbob39
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Only the stuff already mentioned, which was proven to be true and no right to shoot the ground advertised. The reason said syndicate manager was banned.
Fact. A shoot I used to run was on sporting.sh He had no permission for it !
EMcC
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So the present system of contacting the farmer first would soon iron out any of these problems.
Yours wasn't the only shoot advertised by shooting.sh which they had never had any permission for. It was run by a person of let's say questionable virtue who associated with at least one con artist whom I know to have a court judgement against him for subletting ground he had no right to.
merlin
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Wouldn't not advertising ground that no permission is held for be a better way of ironing out problems by not creating them in the first place?
EMcC
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I agree but if it is advertised and the prospective stalker uses the system of contacting the farmer first it would/should soon be taken down - I would hope.
I am lucky, not too far from some of the grounds and know the farmers having been associated with farming in that area for over 60 years.
The original farmers I knew have now retired and their farms are being run by their sons.
Blaser243
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Great approach to deer management that is, shoot them if and when they cross the land. And people say fallow are poorly managed.
EMcC
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That's the only way to keep the numbers down and put venison on the table
sikamalc
Administrator
Its also the easiest way to end up loosing your FAC. Armed trespass.
All of these so called clubs seem to be run by someone who makes it all up as they go along.
EMCC said they way its run now. Hmm it was only a couple of months or so back that someone was still advertising ground on their website that was not even theirs to be on. Nice if some poor soul ends up with loosing their money and then finds themselves on a piece of ground one morning and is done for armed trespass.
All of these so called clubs seem to be run by someone who makes it all up as they go along.
EMCC said they way its run now. Hmm it was only a couple of months or so back that someone was still advertising ground on their website that was not even theirs to be on. Nice if some poor soul ends up with loosing their money and then finds themselves on a piece of ground one morning and is done for armed trespass.
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EMcC
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Not if the proposed stalker contacts the land owner first to make sure it is clear to go, no dung spreading, ploughing or mowing etc. and is a member of the said syndicate.
I can only vouch for the ones within my local area, most of whom I know personally.
Erik Hamburger
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My advise would be to look for a nice Country Home within the M25 belt, a property with say 7 to 8+ Acres of parkland - many have 12-15 or oven up to 20 Acres. They are likely to have a Muntjac 'problem' and there may be some Roe and even the odd Fallow as well. Providing safe shooting is possible (this depends on topography etc.) there are excellent and exiting opportunities for Stalkers who focus on the smaller Country Estates/Country Homes. These opportunities are often overlooked by Stalkers, who at the beginning of their journey into Stalking often are hoping for a 500 +Acres woodland with 4 deer species. That is not going to happen....(sorry!) unless you have very deep pockets. Best of luck.
sikamalc
Administrator
Eddy, that's the issue. WHY would you need to contact the landowner if you already have the so called permission off the syndicate. Not told you have permission, then turn up and find out you have committed armed trespass.
Or find out you have 20 others stalking the same 200 acre farm, as was/is the case with some of these clubs.
springbok787
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Someone I mentor is a member (against all advice given I might add). There is in excess of 50 members now. There is 5 farms in Dorest in hand totalling about 1000 acres and two very small farms in Devon.
I am guessing not all 50 odd members stalk the in hand farms, but he tells me it’s sometimes a struggle to book onto the farms without weeks of notice even mid week. He also says there is well worn tracks in the grass around the outside of the fields where the same guys are walking the same routes time and time again, which doesn’t surprise me if there is lots of guys all chasing the same deer. A deer who is probably long dead by the sounds of things.
Like I said second hand info from a member and I was in two minds about sharing it as it’s not first hand experience. In the end I have decided to share as I wouldn’t want people walking into a syndicate without knowing the info.
I am guessing not all 50 odd members stalk the in hand farms, but he tells me it’s sometimes a struggle to book onto the farms without weeks of notice even mid week. He also says there is well worn tracks in the grass around the outside of the fields where the same guys are walking the same routes time and time again, which doesn’t surprise me if there is lots of guys all chasing the same deer. A deer who is probably long dead by the sounds of things.
Like I said second hand info from a member and I was in two minds about sharing it as it’s not first hand experience. In the end I have decided to share as I wouldn’t want people walking into a syndicate without knowing the info.
kevjacksonde56
New Member
I joined last month based on the leased land that was advertised, soon as I booked a date the land vanished! Asked to cancel after 3 days and within the 14 day cooling off period, every reply has been different and not 1 addressed my cancellation, but did get threatened with court action if I document it so I’m unable to speak about the experience unfortunately
Jimbob39
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So you didn’t read this thread then?
Jimbob39
Well-Known Member
Also court action! If you have been missold something then it’s you who should be threatening that! Blokes a crook.
kevjacksonde56
New Member
Definitely is, so frustrating that I fell for it, I have nice fallow stalking in Derbyshire but just thought, it would be nice to have weekends away with my son, I should of researched it first, we live and learn I guess
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