Hugh Fearnley Whittingstall
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Interesting, I’ve heard similar things regarding people not getting paid. Why didn’t you charge up front? Or couldn’t they afford it
Kindest regards, Olaf
Larger projects were design fee, deposit and stage payments with sometimes a retention. But smaller stuff not so much. A lot of sale or return goes/went on in my bit of the Art and Craft World. I had a few galleries that would buy outright in the early days when I was doing jewellery and domestic scale ironwork. Most of them were sale or return, which had the advantages of less gallery markup, which in turn meant more for the maker. Also that you could swap stock to another gallery if it had hung around too long at one.Interesting, I’ve heard similar things regarding people not getting paid. Why didn’t you charge up front? Or couldn’t they afford it
Kindest regards, Olaf
Given that a lot of people pay big money to exhibit at Chelsea Flower show it is not difficult for landscape gardeners doing show gardens to acquire hardware on loan by way of offering “opportunity to exhibit” for the artist/ maker….especially when the makers are young and stupid and trying to get their name established.
I have probably held that particular grump for forty odd years!
Partly because fortunately over 50 odd years of work there were so few occasions when I did get rooked.Alan
Yes, an unpleasant thing that, dealing with a dishonest customer who’s an arse hole is Fortunately something that has not happened to me more than a couple of times.Larger projects were design fee, deposit and stage payments with sometimes a retention. But smaller stuff not so much. A lot of sale or return goes/went on in my bit of the Art and Craft World. I had a few galleries that would buy outright in the early days when I was doing jewellery and domestic scale ironwork. Most of them were sale or return, which had the advantages of less gallery markup, which in turn meant more for the maker. Also that you could swap stock to another gallery if it had hung around too long at one.
Given that a lot of people pay big money to exhibit at Chelsea Flower show it is not difficult for landscape gardeners doing show gardens to acquire hardware on loan by way of offering “opportunity to exhibit” for the artist/ maker….especially when the makers are young and stupid and trying to get their name established.
I have probably held that particular grump for forty odd years!
Alan
About 20 odd years ago when I’d just become self employed I had a chap who ordered some bespoke clothing display furniture for his expensive clothing shop. Long story short, he took delivery of his display furniture from me and was delighted. Indeed, so delighted was he that he asked for my business cards so he could hand them to customers that asked about the furniture I’d made for him. Anyway, a few weeks later he still hadn’t paid for the furniture, not a penny. He became increasingly hard to contact and when I did get hold of him he always had a new excuse as to why he hadn’t paid yet but would assure me that he would send payment in a couple of days, but never did.
As it happened , i was at that time also making some nice things for a lovely chap who was a Barrister and his wife was a litigation lawyer. So, out of desperation I mentioned to them the problem I was having in getting paid. Upon telling him who the shop owner was his whole face lit up in delight as he said he didn’t like the chap as he’d sold something to his wife that had been faulty and had messed them about. So, he just said to me to await a phone call from a friend of his who was a lawyer and he would start claims procedures against him as a free favour to me
To say that the lawyer who rang me was savage would be an understatement, he was a lovely chap but he knew how to use the law to devastate someone like that. he took details from me, then sent him a letter and gave me a copy. After reading it I almost felt sorry for the arse hole it was being sent to.
Within a couple of days of that letter being sent I got a phone call from the arse shop owner telling me that I could come and collect my money in cash from his shop. I went in and checked every note one by one to ensure none were fake and then gave him his receipt. So satisfying, he looked red with rage and I left grinning
Sometimes justice prevails eh !
Kindest regards, Olaf
243varmint
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Have watched his programmes from the very beginning, where he was driving about in an old landy I think. Then the river cottage series.
He's done a fair bit of good I think.
Yep he got all hot and bothered about deep litter chicken sheds etc... but everyone is entitled to make their own food choices.
I've also been to the food festival at the River cottage HQ. One of the best value for money things we have done as a family. A whole day there, kids went free adults it was £15 each.
Kids had a blast doing stuff from making wooden spoons, crafting willow sculptures, making a big nail in a forge and watching food demos.
Really worth the day out if I'm honest. Oh and Fortis clothing are a mile down the road if you're interested.
He's done a fair bit of good I think.
Yep he got all hot and bothered about deep litter chicken sheds etc... but everyone is entitled to make their own food choices.
I've also been to the food festival at the River cottage HQ. One of the best value for money things we have done as a family. A whole day there, kids went free adults it was £15 each.
Kids had a blast doing stuff from making wooden spoons, crafting willow sculptures, making a big nail in a forge and watching food demos.
Really worth the day out if I'm honest. Oh and Fortis clothing are a mile down the road if you're interested.
Foxyboy43
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Hmmm. I quite like him particularly for the light he has shone on “by-catch” nonsense where trawlermen could not sell accidentally caught species but had to throw their dead bodies overboard so he cruised along the beach throwning said by-catch to sunbathers! I did wonder what happened to his business and noticed that his chef Tim has his own shoot, cook and eat Youtube slot.
I can’t really think of anyone else who has done more in the last twenty years to promote sustainable farming, fishing and eating practices, to a wider audience. I’ll admit to being inspired by his early series to the point of us rearing our own pigs, growing most of our own veg and putting welfare and sustainability high on our priorities list when food buying. I’m sure he’s not got everything right, but all in all, he seems a good egg.
Morkai
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I still go back to watch Escape to River Cottage now. Some great characters on that, Richard Hicks the chicken man, Ray the butcher making black pudding.
I even made my own Prosciutto after seeing his friend Victor Borge make one.
Ade8mm
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"Hugh Fearlessly Eats it all" has done more good than harm.
He has built a successful brand.
More power to him.
Someone mentioned Floyd (Keith)
He burnt many small suppliers.
An entertaining cove and alcoholic. I knew his wife (one of) Shaunagh.
I remember seeing him being asked about his business failures on the telly. He said "the banks may lose a few quid but I will always look after the people who have supported me".
Mmmh.
I used to frequent his place, The Maltster's Arms in Tuckenhay South Hams.
Met Floyd numerous time. Very entertaining chap in his cups.
I got talking to a chap who turned out to be his fish supplier, a Brixham Fish Monger/Trader.
He said " I can't really afford to bring the family here for Sunday lunch, but Keith is my main customer..
I saw him later after Floyd had moved on and he said " Floyd has wiped me out, I am busted, never saw a penny"
I doubt that would happen with H F-H whatever the SD people who take an instant dislike to old Etonians might wish to believe.
This fellow does more good than harm.
We are all "flawed" to a greater or lesser extent.
It is the Human condition
Look at the man in the mirror and tell me I am wrong.
Ade
He has built a successful brand.
More power to him.
Someone mentioned Floyd (Keith)
He burnt many small suppliers.
An entertaining cove and alcoholic. I knew his wife (one of) Shaunagh.
I remember seeing him being asked about his business failures on the telly. He said "the banks may lose a few quid but I will always look after the people who have supported me".
Mmmh.
I used to frequent his place, The Maltster's Arms in Tuckenhay South Hams.
Met Floyd numerous time. Very entertaining chap in his cups.
I got talking to a chap who turned out to be his fish supplier, a Brixham Fish Monger/Trader.
He said " I can't really afford to bring the family here for Sunday lunch, but Keith is my main customer..
I saw him later after Floyd had moved on and he said " Floyd has wiped me out, I am busted, never saw a penny"
I doubt that would happen with H F-H whatever the SD people who take an instant dislike to old Etonians might wish to believe.
This fellow does more good than harm.
We are all "flawed" to a greater or lesser extent.
It is the Human condition
Look at the man in the mirror and tell me I am wrong.
Ade
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Woodsmoke
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It was fine though. Pigeons make great backstops
Morkai
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And great pies
It's your website man, don't diss it...I think some people need to find something better to do in life
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