Qualifications card
- Thread starter Conor O'Gorman
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terrier1
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Yes I think I AM LEAD FREE on the forearm.Next thing BASC will be volunteering we tattoo that we are firearms holders on our forearm!
No different to having a lantra card with the qualifications on
Good idea
Good idea
jimmy milnes
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Or CSCS on site
bottletopbill
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Bull---- what about the older guys who have been shooting over fifty years plus and have all learnt by hands on not in book or class. More money making schemes for the Greedy.
Do not know any other guides above the M25 area
We have two guys in the south east WHO ARE experts in deer stalking and would rather a day spent with either one you would learn more about deer than a DSC1 course.
I would rather pay them no I have not been on a stalk yet with either guy. Sikamalc or Sussex Steve but feel it would be money better spent and for either one to say yes you are ok to hunt and shoot and gralloch deer.
My own opinion only.
Do not know any other guides above the M25 area
We have two guys in the south east WHO ARE experts in deer stalking and would rather a day spent with either one you would learn more about deer than a DSC1 course.
I would rather pay them no I have not been on a stalk yet with either guy. Sikamalc or Sussex Steve but feel it would be money better spent and for either one to say yes you are ok to hunt and shoot and gralloch deer.
My own opinion only.
That didn't quite go to plan did it Tony...
We are not talking about the right and wrong on the DMQ program, but whether or not we should have a card with our qualifications on it.
I'm always pretty amazed in these days of traceability that no game dealer I have ever walked into has asked to see my PH certificate before they take a carcass from me. It's always on trust. I could write anything down. Personally I like it that way, but if we did reach the point where we had to produce proof of qualification to hand a carcass over then a card in the wallet would be more convenient than carrying the certificate around with me in the truck.
Can't see the need for it at the moment though.
baguio
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And may well have been doing it wrong for the whole time and continue to do it wrong. When brought to task (by "some jumped up youngster") they will try to justify their shoddy and out dated practices by saying say that they haven't killed anyone YET!
What about them?
bottletopbill
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It is not about age or thinking you know best but the thought of groups making money yet again. Yes it would be good to know every one is safe and confident and not all gun ho'
No one could possibly doubt the value of experience, but it's a bit variable. There are those that are undoubtedly experts in their field who've never read a book or sat in a classroom, at who's feet the rest of us are scarcely worthy to kneel. Yet there are others who are nothing but a liability, despite years of stalking, and despite thinking that their experience makes them experts in need of no further training or bits of paper. How do you sort one from the other, without some kind of industry wide standard?
Personally I'm not in favour of this card. I think it's daft, and will carry no weight. The majority of farmers won't even know what BASC is. But I do think our industry / sport is the better for some organised training that sets a standard.
Qualifications card
A new card is available to all shooters, allowing users to display their shooting qualifications in one place. The Qualifications Card, launched by BASC and DMQ, includes a photo, membership number and a list of your shooting qualifications. The card is designed to assist users in situations...
www.thestalkingdirectory.co.uk
bottletopbill
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A one day gun safety course in handling or mentoring by some one and as i have said could some of our deer guides also sign yes they are safe to hunt and know how to process a kill with some extra cost. Only if they are willing.
We all know some shooters have a attitude and yes we all need to keep our standards high and you never stop learning.
We all know some shooters have a attitude and yes we all need to keep our standards high and you never stop learning.
baguio
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All the things that people complain that BASC are not doing are based around the fact that they only have a certain amount of money to spread about and yet when they think of a way to generate a bit more money so that they can get involved in more things you slate them. They really can’t win with some people.
If you don’t want a card then don’t buy one. It really is that simple.
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Rewulf
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You are joking
.... arent you ?
bottletopbill
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It was never about complaining about BASC as i am a member but more about the cost. Try to think about the cost for a new person to start shooting not all are super rich but the licence and med forms gun and gear .
Plus training and trips out. We need new members and encourage other's to take part and bring on youngsters through air rifles to full bore. And also try to teach other's we do care about animal health and our land.
Plus training and trips out. We need new members and encourage other's to take part and bring on youngsters through air rifles to full bore. And also try to teach other's we do care about animal health and our land.
This card won’t get you onto a Dover ferry and through 
Customs any quicker!
K
Customs any quicker!K
baguio
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Your post makes no sense what so ever. The cost is up to the seller as it is with everything in life. A new person starting to shoot would have no qualifications so what would they need this card for? It's never going to be an essential so what has someone's wealth got to do with it?
No idea what your second line has to do with anything unless you're suggesting that this card will put off new members from bringing on youngsters and teaching them about animal health? Is that what you're suggesting?
Sika-Hunter
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So will this new card mean we can't wear our shiny badge's that we receive after completion of the DSC1+2 ? and without doubt proving we can identify the ass of a Deer through Bino's at 150yds, unloading a rifle before stepping over a style and hitting a paper target with a 4" group at 100yds. I wonder how many people actually fail the course 
bottletopbill
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The second line is about having respect for animals The cost was mainly DS1 and paying for a stalk and as for being new they will not need a card.
How can you say it will never become essential . No one see a lead ban coming a few years back.
How can you say it will never become essential . No one see a lead ban coming a few years back.
Quite a few I believe, first time around. Usually the shooting, and more often than not an experienced stalker who thought that the shooting test would be the easy part of DSC1.I wonder how many people actually fail the course
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