Steyr Mannlicher ProHunter bolt insertion problem

[Totsy]

Hi all, help needed. I have a steyr CL2 same action as the pro hunter with the locking collar. Fired three shots yesterday, lifted and opened the bolt and loaded another round but couldn’t close the bolt handle. I also can’t open the bolt to eject the live round.
So I know have a round in the chamber and a bolt I can’t pull back. The firing pin isn’t cocked because I couldn’t close the bolt.

Any suggestions?

 

[Muir]

Sounds like an ammo issue. If the bolt went forward and wouldnt' close, and now won't come back, give the bolt handle a rearward smack to see if you can eject the cartridge. ~Muir

 

[Totsy]

Sounds like an ammo issue. If the bolt went forward and wouldnt' close, and now won't come back, give the bolt handle a rearward smack to see if you can eject the cartridge. ~Muir

Thanks Muir, sounds completely reasonable. The cartridge in question was the first of a new batch of brass. Maybe I haven’t sized them properly.

I’ll tap the handle back with a soft mallet.

Sometimes I can’t see the wood from the trees. Thanks again.

 

[Jamsie]

Thanks Muir, sounds completely reasonable. The cartridge in question was the first of a new batch of brass. Maybe I haven’t sized them properly.

I’ll tap the handle back with a soft mallet.

Sometimes I can’t see the wood from the trees. Thanks again.

Stand the rifle on its butt on a solid surface when you do this, then as Muir stated, give the bolt handle a tap (not a wallop) with a soft mallet. The force of the tap and gravity are your friends. Good luck.

Jamsie

 

[Totsy]

Stand the rifle on its butt on a solid surface when you do this, then as Muir stated, give the bolt handle a tap (not a wallop) with a soft mallet. The force of the tap and gravity are your friends. Good luck.

Jamsie

Thank you, will do.

 

[Foxyboy43]

As above - butt downwards and a good tap - heel of the hand may do it. Just a thought - are you certain it isn’t cocked?

 

[Andyquadra]

Please make sure you are in a safe place and position. Last think you want is the round going off and you are stood over it!

 

[Totsy]

As above - butt downwards and a good tap - heel of the hand may do it. Just a thought - are you certain it isn’t cocked?

Yes, but I’ll stay on the side of caution and tap the bolt in a safe place outside. The firing pin protrudes from the bolt shroud. It’s not under any tension at the moment, I can move it with my fingers. I could only lift the bolt and eject the previous spent case, I’ll need to read the owners manual but I think the cock happens when you can close the bolt and push the bolt handle down.

 

[Foxyboy43]

Yes, but I’ll stay on the side of caution and tap the bolt in a safe place outside. The firing pin protrudes from the bolt shroud. It’s not under any tension at the moment, I can move it with my fingers. I could only lift the bolt and eject the previous spent case, I’ll need to read the owners manual but I think the cock happens when you can close the bolt and push the bolt handle down.

Sorry - I am away for a few days so cannot verify this with mine. Soooo just be careful!

 

[Jamsie]

Yes, but I’ll stay on the side of caution and tap the bolt in a safe place outside. The firing pin protrudes from the bolt shroud. It’s not under any tension at the moment, I can move it with my fingers. I could only lift the bolt and eject the previous spent case, I’ll need to read the owners manual but I think the cock happens when you can close the bolt and push the bolt handle down.

CAUTION! If you have lifted the bolt and pulled it back to load another round then the bolt is already cocked. This is NOT a cock on closing rifle. CAUTION!

Jamsie

 

[Foxyboy43]

CAUTION! If you have lifted the bolt and pulled it back to load another round then the bolt is already cocked. This is NOT a cock on closing rifle. CAUTION!

Jamsie

That’s wot I thought too!!

 

[Totsy]

CAUTION! If you have lifted the bolt and pulled it back to load another round then the bolt is already cocked. This is NOT a cock on closing rifle. CAUTION!

Jamsie

Thank you, will do. I’ll tap it on the farm in the open.

 

[Totsy]

All sorted out with no drama. Tapped the bolt handle back with a soft mallet and the round ejected with the retracting bolt. Did it out in the open at the farm hiding behind a trailer door.

Thanks for all the help those that replied, I’m really grateful, even though I feel a bit stupid.

 

[Foxyboy43]

All sorted out with no drama. Tapped the bolt handle back with a soft mallet and the round ejected with the retracting bolt. Did it out in the open at the farm hiding behind a trailer door.

Thanks for all the help those that replied, I’m really grateful, even though I feel a bit stupid.

Every day a Skool day! It is even better fun when the bolt doesn’t extract the bullet and you still have a live round in the breech - I have seen this on two range day occasions - good fun watching how this is sorted - obviously best viewed from a distance, sure what could go wrong?

 

[Jamsie]

All sorted out with no drama. Tapped the bolt handle back with a soft mallet and the round ejected with the retracting bolt. Did it out in the open at the farm hiding behind a trailer door.

Thanks for all the help those that replied, I’m really grateful, even though I feel a bit stupid.

Well done! Now that the immediate issue is safely resolved, may I suggest you probably need to have a good look at your ammo ...

Jamsie

 

[Totsy]

Well done! Now that the immediate issue is safely resolved, may I suggest you probably need to have a good look at your ammo ...

Jamsie

Yes, that’s tomorrows job. I have a feeling I haven’t body sized them, only neck. And as I’d bought them once fired from someone else, the body wouldn’t fit in my chamber. That’s my hypothesis anyway.

 

[Totsy]

Every day a Skool day! It is even better fun when the bolt doesn’t extract the bullet and you still have a live round in the breech - I have seen this on two range day occasions - good fun watching how this is sorted - obviously best viewed from a distance, sure what could go wrong?

How does that get resolved?

 

[Foxyboy43]

How does that get resolved?

Cleaning rod and very gentle pushing - from the muzzle end! First time the bullet went down into the case and compressed the powder until the whole lot extracted, second time it just popped out though it was crimped!
Likelihood of anything going is probably remote but definitely not for those of a nervous disposition!

 

[Totsy]

That’s a good. With the bolt removed, I can’t see how the round could ignite if pushed from the bullet.
I’ve turned up to a match wondering why I couldn’t chamber a round, to find part of a bore guide in my chamber.

 

[Muir]

With the bolt handle lifted far enough to retract the bolt the was no real danger of firing the jammed cartridge. (Perhaps inless the trigger was pressed and the bolt handle driven downward) It is mechanically blocked. If it wasn't there would be all kinds of horror stories from people cycling the action roughly when chambering or extracting live rounds.

And my English / American translator is broken today. What does
"I’ve turned up to a match wondering why I couldn’t chamber a round, to find part of a bore guide in my chamber."
Mean? ~Muir