Is this what this country is coming too

[User00053]

That's fine, it's people's right to agree or disagree. I also really cannot agree with any "views and insights" presented in this thread unless the person presenting those "views and insights" answers "yes" to the question you quoted.

If the answer to that question is "no", then you are merely trying to tell other people how they should feel in a situation that you yourself have never had to go though. I have never shot a deer having only recently decided to try taking up stalking. I would never think to try and tell anyone on this forum how best they should shoot a deer. I have never caught a pike on the fly, why would I ever try and tell someone else how best to catch a pike on the fly?



There is no conversational progression for this.

The question is, where are you from. Would the person asking it accept it if you said "Kerry"? Or would they insist and ask you, No where are you really from? Would you ever answer that question differently (i.e. Scotland)?

Ultimately, that situation, at least as far as I have ever found, from anyone I have ever asked, would simply not happen. Why? Because the person being asked, is white, and the response is accepted. Yet it is fine, and acceptable to many of the respondents to this thread it seems, to ask that same question and expect a different response, if the person being asked is not white.

Each to their own, but enjoy the stalking and fishing.

 

[Fair Hill]

That's the thing. Is it a conversation, if someone next asks you "No, but where are you from?".

The flaw in your reply is that you say the conversation "progresses". Has the conversation progressed, if someone asks "No, but where are you from?" when you gave your one word answer?

If you find it hard to understand, run yourself through this conversation:

Q: Where are you from?
A: Kerry.
Q: No but where are you really from?
A: Kerry.
Q: Okay fine, I'll ask differently then, what Nationality are you?
A: Irish.

Does that happen for you? I can bloody well tell you it happens to me, and any other non-white British person.

Presuming that fictitious circumstance I mentioned previously, where your parents may have been born in Scotland, but had been born, raised and spent your whole life in Kerry, would you answer those questions differently? Would you get annoyed that someone just doesn't accept that answer?

It's not "narrative". It is something that has happened to me week after week, my whole life, and to other non-white British people, who often have never set foot outside the UK to their "native" lands...

As I already said, you have the problem and I couldn't care less.

 

[Dunwaters]

Say you are born and raised in Kerry, lived your whole life in Kerry, but your parents (or maybe just one of them) is from Scotland. If someone asked you "where are you from", would you say Scotland?

No, but you’re not a Kerryman either.
A Dubliner resident in Kerry is always a Jackeen, a Kerryman living in Dublin is almost always a civil servant or a builder.

 

[User00053]

As I already said, you have the problem and I couldn't care less.

Have to laugh really, just dawned on me , have you heard the one about the, English man, Scots man, and Irish man.

 

[Fair Hill]

No, but you’re not a Kerryman either.
A Dubliner resident in Kerry is always a Jackeen, a Kerryman living in Dublin is a civil servant.

And a Corkman living in Kerry is "only a blowin".

No matter how long he's living there.

And I wouldn't change that for the world.

Rebels Abú!

 

[Fair Hill]

Have to laugh really, just dawned on me , have you heard the one about the, English man, Scots man, and Irish man.

That's racist you left out the half a chinaman.

 

[Pighunter]

If you venture into the prairies dressed in a loincloth and headdress and introduce yourself as Mighty Buffalo, don't complain if you get shot by a cowboy....

 

[User00053]

Black and Irish, our mr Lynott rip. Edit black and white parents

 

[User00053]

That's racist you left out the half a chinaman.

Let’s not forget all those hot mixed race babes. Edit and have been lucky enough to have had sex with a British girl of African origins ( can I say that?)

 

[User00053]

Just in case to avoid doubt and without prejudice the above mentioned sex was consensual,
No white sheets or burning crosses to been seen..

 

[User00053]

If you venture into the prairies dressed in a loincloth and headdress and introduce yourself as Mighty Buffalo, don't complain if you get shot by a cowboy....

 

[Pighunter]

Sadly never saw Thin Lizzy but Gary Moore countless times

 

[wildrover77]

I get asked all the time where I am from. Sometimes a little confusion was to where I now live or where I am 'from'. I live in Yorkshire but was born and lived in Belfast for 20 years. I am from Ireland but of the Ulster Scottish persuasion so really am plastic Irish. I have always taken it the way it was meant, genuine interest in my history, it can spark a good conversation. It backfired with me once when I asked a 'woke' Romanian, who was most upset. They had obtained British nationality. I just wanted to learn about Romania.

 

[User00053]

Sadly never saw Thin Lizzy but Gary Moore countless times

Ah Gary Moore Parisian walkways? Great tune, have to say got taken to a thin lizzy show late seventies of the live and dangerous period as nothing better to do at time. To this day stands out as a great night and performance.

 

[NullMac]

would only consider such a question racist if I were from Scotland.

Whaaaat?

Had the wummun that runs the pub in Uppingham across the road from Boots tell me that all Scots were filthy crooked scum. That was what I call racism, but one f_uck I did not give, cos if I looked like her I would be bitter and twisted as well. I thought it was an interesting approach in the days of tripadvisor but there you go.

The irony was that at 2 in the morning it was one of her fellow ladies of Uppingham that hitched her skirt and had a pish in the Boots doorway.

 

[User00053]

I get asked all the time where I am from. Sometimes a little confusion was to where I now live or where I am 'from'. I live in Yorkshire but was born and lived in Belfast for 20 years. I am from Ireland but of the Ulster Scottish persuasion so really am plastic Irish. I have always taken it the way it was meant, genuine interest in my history, it can spark a good conversation. It backfired with me once when I asked a 'woke' Romanian, who was most upset. They had obtained British nationality. I just wanted to learn about Romania.

Same with me at moment learning about Latvia from a nice Latvian lady.

 

[Pighunter]

Ah Gary Moore Parisian walkways? Great tune, have to say got taken to a thin lizzy show late seventies of the live and dangerous period as nothing better to do at time. To this day stands out as a great night and performance.

Yep. Lucky you, I had much the same thing happen with Pink Floyd in 94 which turned out to be the best gig I have ever been to, and believe me I have seen a few bands in my time.

 

[User00053]

Whaaaat?

Had the wummun that runs the pub in Uppingham across the road from Boots tell me that all Scots were filthy crooked scum. That was what I call racism, but one f_uck I did not give, cos if I looked like her I would be bitter and twisted as well. I thought it was an interesting approach in the days of tripadvisor but there you go.

The irony was that at 2 in the morning it was one of her fellow ladies of Uppingham that hitched her skirt and had a pish in the Boots doorway.

Worked and lived in Scotland for many moons, had some great banter as I was a English reject etc, no offence taken either way just good fun as to who could throw worst racist comment in jest, son born there great times.

 

[Stalker62]

I come from Stockport and would only consider such a question racist if I were from Scotland.

Really?

You do realise that when you post on social media, people can read it, and will then form a view about the author?

You do realise that?

 

[Dunwaters]

Really?

You do realise that when you post on social media, people can read it, and will then form a view about the author?

You do realise that?

Welcome back, loved your write ups.