weird because not being able to produce the details of the seller or tags is an offence is it not ? At worst its receiving
Poaching
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Jon P
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Could not prove suffering, as we did not see it being killed, sheep was hit on head with metal bar and then bled out, if first blow knocked sheep unconscious then no suffering- person was not British and stated it is how they kill them on his parents farm. The only thing I could get to stick was not being a licensed slaughter man
Jon P
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Offender hid nothing from me or the Police, they even stated they were out drunk driving when they stole sheep in covid restrictions. I only deal with animal related offences , rest were up to the police to sort out. No action was taken by them.
Phil fox man
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I read an old book "the countryman's companion " where poachers ears were cut on the Grissel as punishment and to identify them,sounds ok to me
There are far more places in the UK where it would be easy enough to take a deer with a rifle than there are suitable places to run a long dog, I reckon. Drive-by shootings would be a cinch. Plus all the deer that are taken just across the boundary by frustrated stalkers having a blank day.
I'm with Rake on this one. It's easy to blame the known baddies for everything, when in fact the problem may lie closer to home.
nun_hunter
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What evidence was there to suggest that it had been killed by persons unknown, rather than just died and been chewed up by foxes and badgers?
Call at any shoot after a day, and they'll fill your vehicle boot. Poaching that's so old school.
Why would they only take one of the worst cuts? I would start with the haunch and loin.
And a shoulder would be much easier to take with the shoulder blade and bone
Do you get much deer poaching ? We get plenty here in the forrest of bowland , however a fraction of it is via the gun ( had one shot one night with my home in the backdrop ) done from the road ! however there are maybe 10 plus done with running dogs or more for that one .
I doubt its the same in all areas its just we are commuting distance from some big , Northern cities. Its all about Gambling over the carcass / venison .
There are places in the highlands where i visit where any poaching of deer would be via the gun and the guys cannot understand how we get the carcass left with only ears and photos taken most frequently the carcass is left
Rake Aboot
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Yup East Lothian , the majority of deer poaching is with a rifle.
Has been as long as I can remember, even when I was running the dogs.
Has been as long as I can remember, even when I was running the dogs.
Must be not a very good photo then, because all I can see there is pretty typical evidence of carcass predation by wildlife (eg, ear gone, eye gone, ribs picked etc). So it's obviously been laid out for a night or so. Perhaps you saw it before the foxes / badgers started on it, to be able to determine knife cuts, but didn't think to photograph it at the time?
Your lucky then , you dont want the pond life we get
Ade8mm
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The livestock owner found it early morning, he mentioned it to me when I saw him later in the day, and was cussing about how the **astards had sliced the shoulder off. I took the foto much later after the crows had been at it, and yes it is not a very clear picture.
The culprit prob brought the calf down by mistake but even so didn't miss the opportunity for some Veal.
Seems strange you wish to question a straightforward report.
Takes all sorts I suppose.
I question it only because it sounds unlikely, and because the photo, as seen, doesn't look to me like any part of it has been sliced with a knife. It just looks like typical carrion. But as you say it's not a very clear picture, and it was taken later in the day. Some considerable time later I should think, as it's not just crows that have been at it in the meantime, but foxes too.
It happens over a bet (much like betting on who's long dog is best)
The break into a pen (in the dark) catch the poults pull the heads off stuff them in a bag or coat pocket then have a count up later (sometimes back at a pub)
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Fife seems to have it bad again at the moment.
During the recent hard frosts, I drove one morning from Lochgelly to Kinross round the east side of loch Leven, and must have seen at least 10 roe carcasses just lying out in the fields. Couldn’t tell what had brought them down, but friends says its dog men out of Dundee.
Franchi Matt
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Ah, poachers.... funnily enough while doing some family tree research I discovered that my grandad had been caught poaching although he was let off. After that he dug up several cypress trees from a judges garden - of which he was charged and fined 
he was a travelling hawker, on the plus side he sold several items to the British museum....
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