Fenlandfowler
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Just a heads up to anyone with land north of Peterborough, we believe we have had poachers on the land over the Christmas period so keep a look out.
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Brighty3006
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Is that you Luke??????
it can easily be stopped via proper Police work and some worthwhile sentencing in court . too many puny sentences and too poor and too little Police interest in even doing any investigation ! Before anyone jumps down my throat that's the facts here!
Must be kind of freaky when the coppers actually get to grips with them but then we have Magistrates who view the perpetration of such events like some sort of socialist robin hood , when its really a callous crime connected more to Gambling than feeding their hungry family . If you do get a copper they dont want to get involved !
Be good to be fair to have a fish and game dept here in the uk !
Fenlandfowler
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Brighty3006
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Nigel here. Didn't know you had joined us mate
Fenlandfowler
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New to it so got a lot to learn, figured this would be a good place to start.
Not very good at it if they've left some evidence. Happens everywhere especially low the price is good again
Brighty3006
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Nigel here. Didn't know you had joined us mate. If you click on the profile picture you can start a private chat. Cheers mate
Rake Aboot
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I agree to a point, proper punishment would help. Take their FAC from them for a start , confiscate their rifles, that would help, but unfortunately the police are too interested in trying to prove that coarsing is the antichrist and concentrate on dog men too much rather than the main poachers of deer, Stalkers.
As far back as people have owned land, there's been poachers. Take a deer from the King's forests over a thousand years ago and it'll result in a stretched neck. Much less and you'll lose your hands. And that'll be people who had been poaching to live! Nowadays most poachers do it as a "sport" and perhaps to sell high value game, but never to survive.
Truthfully, it's no easy thing to stop or apprehend poachers. In the dark there's 360 degrees any poacher can go to escape and it's easy to see someone coming. The odd police car stop sometimes provides dividends, but they've still got it to prove. Which the cops might or might not think is worth it for deer, but for a brace of pheasants or duck, there's never going to be any big investigation.
It's easy to see why poachers vehicles end up with the likes of flat tyres. Although I'd never condone that!
Truthfully, it's no easy thing to stop or apprehend poachers. In the dark there's 360 degrees any poacher can go to escape and it's easy to see someone coming. The odd police car stop sometimes provides dividends, but they've still got it to prove. Which the cops might or might not think is worth it for deer, but for a brace of pheasants or duck, there's never going to be any big investigation.
It's easy to see why poachers vehicles end up with the likes of flat tyres. Although I'd never condone that!
or a small hole in the sump that loses all the oil as their being chased.
The deer do belong to someone as soon as they're dead, ie, the owner of the land on which they lie, or the person who has the right to take deer from the land.
But yes, you make a fair point, and iirc the charges that can be brought against someone for poaching deer are different from other game. In the case of deer it is theft of the carcass that is the crime.
I may have got this wrong, I'm sure someone else will confirm.
Jon P
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The police will definitely class it as a victimless crime, I took a prosecution against someone for illegally slaughtering sheep in the back garden, the sheep had no ear tags by them time I had got there so could not be traced to a farm, police would not run with the theft as no person could be found to of lost anything and it was a victimless crime. The person admitted to stealing the sheep to the police from an unknown location whilst drunk.
Rake Aboot
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I simply wont have Rifle shooters poach anything like as much as Dog men ! Sure there have been a good few shot on the neighbours' side but there must be 20+ taken by dog men
I had Dave Rawlins and Eileen stay with me for two 3-month periods per year for 12 years. I heard a lot!
long_range_rob
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Surely causing unnecessary cruelty to animals at the very least.
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