Bavarianbrit
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All my boar in the last five years were taken with .270s, before that I used a bequeathed to me 30-06 A3-03.
6.5 creedmoor or .270 pros and cons
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The only relevant bit is the bullet you select, the creed is far from the ultimate 6.5mm on the hunting field . Its biggest advantage over other 6.5 is it can last the course of a very full season competing and load development / practice rounds that goes with . Both work pretty even ballistics at 500 yards , so your not going to find any difference at 2-300 yds.
Oh i forgot - the person shooting it !
Oh i forgot - the person shooting it !
Dunwaters
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The .270 is designed for hunting, theres no compromise or attempt to be a crossover round with pretentious to target use. Bullet weights from 100 to 156Gr are readily available in factory loads.
The Creedmoor was specifically designed for target shooting, the crossover into use on game evolved as it gained popularity, most factory loads feature 140Gr bullets, heavier and lighter projectiles are somewhat less common than hens teeth.
Up to 500M or so the .270 beats the Creedmoor in terms of energy retention and trajectory with similar weight projectiles.
If I was in the market myself I’d get a .270 for game and a 6.5x55 for game and targets ( which I have done, there are bullet weights available in the Swede from 120 to 156Gr) . Both cartridges easily handle copper projectiles.
The superiority of the Creedmoor over either .270 or 6.5x55 for either use is incremental and I suspect, purely theoretical and neither relevant, or apparent to better than 90% of users.
The Creedmoor was specifically designed for target shooting, the crossover into use on game evolved as it gained popularity, most factory loads feature 140Gr bullets, heavier and lighter projectiles are somewhat less common than hens teeth.
Up to 500M or so the .270 beats the Creedmoor in terms of energy retention and trajectory with similar weight projectiles.
If I was in the market myself I’d get a .270 for game and a 6.5x55 for game and targets ( which I have done, there are bullet weights available in the Swede from 120 to 156Gr) . Both cartridges easily handle copper projectiles.
The superiority of the Creedmoor over either .270 or 6.5x55 for either use is incremental and I suspect, purely theoretical and neither relevant, or apparent to better than 90% of users.
To a much lesser degree the 6GT attracts much attention. Rarely seen in UK though.
I shoot 6.5 CM at Bisley. For hunting .270 is probably superior (at normal hunting distances) but I'd personally choose 308 (if not choosing 6.5CM) .
However, to add to the discussion, on the assumption that where the US goes the rest of the world to some extent ultimately follows (source: Backfire - Jim Harmer):
However, to add to the discussion, on the assumption that where the US goes the rest of the world to some extent ultimately follows (source: Backfire - Jim Harmer):
Bolt-Action Rifle Cartridge Popularity (Ranked by USA Rifle Sales)
This data comes from rifles sold in the USA during Q4 of 2021 and Q1 of 2022.- 6.5 Creedmoor
- 22LR
- 6.5 PRC
- 30-06 Springfield
- 300 Win Mag
- 308 Winchester
- 6.8 Western
- 7mm Rem Mag
- 7mm-08
Rifle Cartridge Popularity Ranked By Online Ammo Sales
- 22LR
- 223 Remington
- 6.5 Creedmoor
- 300 Blackout (tied for fourth)
- 30-06 Springfield (tied for fourth)
- 300 Win Mag
- 6.5 PRC
- 308 Winchester
- 7mm Rem Mag
- 22-250
- 7mm-08
Leec6.5
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The 270 has been unpopular for many years, certainly for the last 10-15.
But the performance and the reliability speaks for themselves, the 270 does the job and does it bloody well!
Lapua, Norma and Peterson all make 284W brass, at a price!
shakey jake
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270 win old fashioned based on 30 03.
6.5 creed moor too new and requires a man bun.
i just went stupid and got a 7mm rem mag, probably nearly as old as a 270 but its got a belt so its cool.
no animal will be able to tell the bullet or chambering that hit it.
but some just arent cool
6.5 creed moor too new and requires a man bun.
i just went stupid and got a 7mm rem mag, probably nearly as old as a 270 but its got a belt so its cool.
no animal will be able to tell the bullet or chambering that hit it.
but some just arent cool
No it's not the only cartridge. 243's are for people who can't handle a proper gun and it's the smallest they can go with staying deer legal.
Had a 270 couldn’t fault it put everything down well but have changed to 6.5cm but not used it yet. I must be fair it’s like shooting a 243 and I can keep sight picture. I would imagine 6.5 creedmoor tops the sales in USA over a 270, and they shoot way more deer than we do
SimonDodsworth
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As a Swede owner I concur. Handloaded it can match the performance of the CM anyway if you need it to. Used to be popular for long range and most rifles have such long throats you can really push the long bullets out. But why? How often, in the UK do we need to take shots over 400m? I’ve never had a .270 so my knowledge of that cartridge is theoretica.
The 270 has been taking deer since the 1920s so one would hope so.
jthyttin
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Like many other manufacturers, Lapua has suspended production for selected articles. Among them 284Win cases, along with 6.5-284
Message regarding Lapua case availability
Due to the high product demand and the prevailing market conditions, the availability of some of our products is limited and delivery times extended.
www.lapua.com
Rasputin
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I would add to my earlier comments about owning both. I believe the choice of 6.5 or .270 boils down to the rifle itself. My first gun was a lightweight howa 1500 with a cheap plastic stock and it was abhorrent to shoot. Everyone called me a wetter until they shot it and saw what I was on about was genuinely so unpleasant if I needed to zero it I would get a friend to do it. Conversely my r8 and same pals sako are considerably nicer to shoot with obviously more weight and better stocks.
6pt-sika
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.264-.277-.284
6pt-sika
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I’ve killed deer with six different 6.5mm cartridges , killed deer with four different .277 cartridges and killed deer with seven different 7mm cartridges . Bottom line all were quite DEAD 
Without looking at my game log I’d say the two cartridges I’ve killed the most deer with are the 260 REM and 7mm REM Mag .
Without looking at my game log I’d say the two cartridges I’ve killed the most deer with are the 260 REM and 7mm REM Mag .That's it, they all end up dead. I havent used anywhere near as many calibres as yourself. 30-06 308 303 243 223 222. To be honest the 222 and 308 are what get used the most for deer these days. The others mostly just get oil wiped on them now.I’ve killed deer with six different 6.5mm cartridges , killed deer with four different .277 cartridges and killed deer with seven different 7mm cartridges . Bottom line all were quite DEAD
No wonder CDSG have got them listed 'out of stock'. I've got some Norma and Peterson 284W cases, as yet unused, and a lot of necked up 5.5-284 cases, some still unused.
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