FL Resize. Your problems will be over. ~Muir
Chambering issue.
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Smellydog
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This...^...any action with little to no caming action, so break open, martini, pump, auto and leveraction , full length resize.
Foxyboy43
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‘Scuse me - how very dare you?
“measure the shoulder on a case that fits without issue”.
Stalker62
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It's this fascination (fetish) for measuring things.‘Scuse me - how very dare you?
“measure the shoulder on a case that fits without issue”.
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Half a century back, all these 'seyentifik" looking gadgets with micrometer dials were the expensive and specialized tools of hard core target shooters. Now they are cheap and plentiful and many people buy them (and over use them) to show that they are "hard core" shooters, too-whether that shoe fits or not. It's like a badge on a shooting jacket.
I don't have a comparator for determining seating depth and when I showed a relatively new reloader MY method for determining that distance on a bullet for which there is no published data, he bolted from his chair, snatched the loaded round from my hand and said,
" Holy (explicative)! YOU are supposed to be TEACHING me this stuff and YOU DON"T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DO IT RIGHT!!!"
In my own reloading room, no less......
Such is the Measuring Mania. ~Muir
Bavarianbrit
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They walk amongst us.@ Muir
I've had a similar thing, friend couldn't understand why a shorter game bullet loaded to the same COAL as a target bullet wouldn't chamber.
I explained it was the shape of the bullet, his reply was "But they're both round"
Winner. ~MuirI explained it was the shape of the bullet, his reply was "But they're both round"
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kenbro
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Have you tried a Case Gage-CG-
kenbro
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Think I'll stick with the body die as it doesn't just bump the shoulder but also sizes the body (Body die).
Small base die would surely expidite the case life.
I do have FL dies but don't like messing with lube inside and outside necks, + I usually get some on the shoulder and end up with deformed shoulders.
Easier collet sizing the necks then through the body die....now that die is set to move the shoulder only enough for easy gun closing and cocking.
I suspect some of these cases would have worked in a bolt gun with its camming action.
Thanks, Ken.
Small base die would surely expidite the case life.
I do have FL dies but don't like messing with lube inside and outside necks, + I usually get some on the shoulder and end up with deformed shoulders.
Easier collet sizing the necks then through the body die....now that die is set to move the shoulder only enough for easy gun closing and cocking.
I suspect some of these cases would have worked in a bolt gun with its camming action.
Thanks, Ken.
I'm easily confused, I'll admit, but isn't the above method you are going to continue with what prompted this post in the first place? I shoot autoloaders, lever guns, single shots and bolt guns. Only the bolters could get away with less than FL sized cases but I FL resize them anyhow. Trouble free chambering and better accuracy.
Good luck. ~Muir
Foxyboy43
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kenbro
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Hi Muir,
The answer to my problemo in in post#7. Simple as that.
I had been thinking I used enough elbow grease when using to body die, but no, I wasn't.
I've loaded 60 cases today and tried each one and all go, gun closes and will cock.
What's not to like?
Thanks for your input everyone.
Ken.
PS. Just starting on the Hornet now.
Actually it was pretty hysterical. MarinePMI was loading on another press during that exchange. Still makes us laugh. ~MuirNow that is sad, very sad….
Heym SR20
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With break action guns you really need to full length resize. I haven’t played with the Bergara BA13, but in my combination gun if a case is not full length resize the action will close but top lever won’t fully close.
I suspect, but don’t know, with the BA13 there will be something in the mechanics that prevents trigger cocking if the action is not full closed and all the locking lugs fully home.
I always make sure my sizing die fully hits the case holder. And indeed i have taken a couple of thou off my case holder.
I suspect, but don’t know, with the BA13 there will be something in the mechanics that prevents trigger cocking if the action is not full closed and all the locking lugs fully home.
I always make sure my sizing die fully hits the case holder. And indeed i have taken a couple of thou off my case holder.
Hope you are weighing each grain of powder out @Muir ...
Had a boy come round to mine to 'learn' how to set up his dies and load for his 6.5 Creedmoor, right after sizing and priming had been demonstrated, he said we should be measuring each charge to 0.01 grains, as throwing a predetermined charge of powder directly from the measure into the case was reckless...
ChesterP
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I've had this problem with PPU in 308 and 223. Half the factory rounds wouldn't chamber. Had to pull them and use a FL die to regularise them so they'd chamber. I find no evidence for FL dies shortening case life but I do anneal after each firing. Up to 10 reloads on mine.
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