Foxyboy43
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Forget the wee .17 at those ranges.
Just buy a triple deuce and reload. You will not regret it - even the man upstairs has one as his rifle of choice….
17hmr or .17 hornet
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Just buy a triple deuce and reload. You will not regret it - even the man upstairs has one as his rifle of choice….
MagicLantern
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17WSM.
It does it all, if you can get some ammo.
It does it all, if you can get some ammo.
Dan Newcombe
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Is Ben - I wouldn’t worry about it, if it’s not in the cabinet it’s got the moderator on.
Seen some work now and hasn’t missed a beat - cheers!
The two are so totally different ! In energy and effective range also quarry . one is a RF and all RF are weak as p*** compared to a Cf . 17 hornet more than doubles the speed of the 17 HMR and it also shoots a heavier bullet
Best for vermin ? depends if you thinking rabbit to 150 yards or Fox over double that and crows further again
The RF market only exists because ammo has been made cheap and is in massive quantities . make Rimfire £1 a shot and it will simply disappear !
Bo Diddley
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Just go straight to .222rem or .223rem, and make life easy on yourself.
Just because a calibre is capable of killing a fox at the quoted distances doesn't make it the right choice .
Everyone I know that has taken foxes with the HMR has had to follow up within the first couple , myself included . Not ideal !
If you're shooting foxes at 200+ yards you require something with a lot more authority to ensure a clean kill . The HMR and Hornet have their place , this isn't it
. There's been a lot of suggestions already . My suggestion would be to put in for another variation and unless you homeload stick to the likes of .222 ,.223 and 22-250 as ammo is still readily available. You can always sell the brass to recoup a little of the cost .
Everyone I know that has taken foxes with the HMR has had to follow up within the first couple , myself included . Not ideal !
If you're shooting foxes at 200+ yards you require something with a lot more authority to ensure a clean kill . The HMR and Hornet have their place , this isn't it
. There's been a lot of suggestions already . My suggestion would be to put in for another variation and unless you homeload stick to the likes of .222 ,.223 and 22-250 as ammo is still readily available. You can always sell the brass to recoup a little of the cost .
That’s not vermin! That’s not .17 hornet and certainly not HMR. Get a .223
Which you won’t be able to soon as no one is bringing it in any more. It’s also not a 200 yard plus fox round
How can you be over gunned for a safe shot? A safe shot into a decent backstop is a safe shot with a rimfire or a deer calibre, or are you saying you’re happy to take more risks with smaller calibres?
Bo Diddley
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Sometimes it's nice to use something with a bit of authority, rather than having to rely on fieldcraft. I use a .22 Hornet a lot for foxing, I like ranges of 125 yards or less ideally, and my fieldcraft is good, but when we take something like the .220 Swift or .243 out it makes me realize how much I handicap myself.
PhilSN12
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I agree, I do not take on a fox past 100y with my HMR. Also it does not go out on a windy night
PhilSN12
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Oh dear!
An example would be a small holding I shoot on that gets the occasional fox. The HMR is no problem there but I would not be happy using my .223 on some parts of it.
There is another location I sometimes go to after and as I don't like leaving weapons in the car, I only ever take one with me. That location is larger so if I only have the HMR and they don't come in to a squeak, I have to use fieldcraft to get closer.
What makes the HMR no problem but the .223 a problem?
Forget the wee .17 at those ranges.
Just buy a triple deuce and reload. You will not regret it - even the man upstairs has one as his rifle of choice….
I put in a phone call , it's local rate . The Big Man said you're talking bo##%x , he uses a .223 .
Whilst there's no legal minimum calibre for fox , I'm not sure that Firearms Licensing would grant a variation for the HMR for use on fox . It certainly used to be frowned upon here . I guess "all legal quarry " would cover it .
The OP hasn't given much information in regards to his permission but has stated 150 - 200 yards plus , which means that both the HMR and Hornet would be left wanting.
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