A word of caution when near cattle.

[John Gryphon]

Unbelievable!

Thats the norm here they will even take a wedding party into a field of yellow or a field of sunflowers for pics. Tourists stop,break fences trample crops and think no wrong has been done. " oh you have millions of them so standing on a few wont hurt"

 

[Utectok]

Also watch where you pee

Man killed by cow after it was hit by train and flung 100ft while he was urinating

A man who was urinating next to a train track was killed died after he was hit by part of a cow which a train had collided with.

www.joe.co.uk

 

[shakey jake]

Also watch where you pee

Man killed by cow after it was hit by train and flung 100ft while he was urinating

A man who was urinating next to a train track was killed died after he was hit by part of a cow which a train had collided with.

www.joe.co.uk

he wasnt just killed, he killed died by the cow!

 

[Essexsussex]

Hazel will not reproduce the sound as it isn't hollow, reckon they see blue too.

When I was working in a livestock market as long ago as 25 years the rspca would video your every move and you would most definitely have an issue using poly pipe instead of a stick.

 

[Essexsussex]

I totally disagree with that.. steers/bullocks don`t give a continental really and will come over only due to the curious factor, its cows with young calves that get pi$$ed off with dogs, not people.
I go though a few hundred Angus here every day and they are very "dog aware" due to the predatory wild dogs although I do admit if I`m in the ute and the dog is running free they know its friendly fire so they don`t get huffy.
Cows with wee calves will respond to a dog with some fury depending on how close the dog trots past the calf. If a calf bawls EVERY cow comes running.
I have wild dogs eating a dead calf atm, they are pulling it around like a rag doll but are trap shy...I have another plan though.

Thought I’d seen all types of cattle and had them sussed until I started trying to push a Brahman round a pen when I got a job on a station in Mungindi. We don’t have them here!

 

[John Gryphon]

until I started trying to push a Brahman round a pen

six-seven foot walls in the pens up there and its amazing how quick a jackeroo can hurdle one with a brahman after them ha ha.

I bet after a day in the dust out there that you had a few in the Two Mile.

 

[Essexsussex]

six-seven foot walls in the pens up there and its amazing how quick a jackeroo can hurdle one with a brahman after them ha ha.

I bet after a day in the dust out there that you had a few in the Two Mile.

best experience of my life. Just glad i survived.
Reckon it was the Jolly Swagman though.

 

[CookM]

Funny that people will quickly lash Fido to their side when passing outdoor sows with piglets kept back by two strands of fairly pokey electric fence,but will slip him as soon as they pass through a kissing gate into a field of cows freshly turned out.

Cue the whole lot wheeling round thundering down on the field.

I feel sorry for the number of people who lose their lives through ignorance of Daisy's maternal instinct.
No better when fellow farmers succumb due to the "safe " cow acting out of the norm.

 

[Jon P]

When I was working in a livestock market as long ago as 25 years the rspca would video your every move and you would most definitely have an issue using poly pipe instead of a stick.

Not read it in a while but believe the Welfare of Animals at Markets Order (WAMO) states a stick should only be used as an extension of the arm. Poly Pipe definitely not allowed as it don’t break with a over keen drover and bruises the meat to much, gets picked up at OV inspection in abattoir. ( slightly off topic to original post, but I have pulled drovers up in the past for excessive use of the stick as no point beating the cow at the back when 10 cows forward up the race the gate is closed and they got nowhere to go).

 

[John Gryphon]

These move them but not bruise when they don`t want to load into the truck. Note the last line in the 'warning'

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[finnbear270]

When I was working in a livestock market as long ago as 25 years the rspca would video your every move and you would most definitely have an issue using poly pipe instead of a stick.

rspca have issues full stop.

 

[Jagare]

Make a noise like a warble fly, although we're not supposed to have any, cattle know about them.

When I was a herdsman in another life I could imitate the warble fly buzz. That gets cattle in a panic ,running round with their tails held high.

 

[VSS]

Old fella here said to me " the ****s will walk all over your place with impunity and feel they have a right to but when they buy some pi$$ing little 20 acre block of their own they straightaway put a trespassers prosecuted sign on it."

Exactly the same here. Everyone seems to think people should be able to walk where they like, until they manage to buy a bit of land of their own, and then they go to great lengths to keep people off it, even to the extent of trying to get legal footpaths diverted.
Newbie smallholders and downshifters are often the most hypocritical as they're usually just the type of people who, in their former life, were campaigning for greater access to the countryside.

 

[baguio]

I would be against a requirement that the farmer had to put up signs. That would surely make him guilty if he hadn't. The public hate being told NO and seem to think it's clever to knock signs over or break them off. Sod anyone coming behind them who might have wanted to know about the risk!

 

[bobby18]

Remember a good few years back out foxing one night with the lamp,came to a gateway shone the lamp nothing.Opened the gate and in I go,half way across field had a funny feeling something was behind me,turned around put lamp on big Hereford bull .If I ran and panicked he would have caught me ,so decided to approach him slowly,started stroking his head he was as good as gold ,backed off slowly and off I went.Not something I would recommend or I would do again,clenched cheeks job.

 

[John Gryphon]

in their former life, were campaigning for greater access to the countryside.

and thats the point isnt it, when they own a patch they don`t want you on it.

 

[Bowland blades]

Either public with dogs stay off public rights of way with cows and calves or beasts in field present or no cows and calf’s or beasts in fields with footpaths. Anyone talking dog into field with cows and calves does so at own risk and can expect the worse. Plenty Of signs methinks.
Every summer have to negotiate fields with young bullocks in and am centre of attraction .
Watched a dog fox travel full length of field with cows and calves and no reaction whatsoever, same location different field my friends the bullocks chased a half grown cub a long way before reaching fence, suspect just a game?

Its not own risk under legislation though ! Some farms forget that fact and they can / will be held at fault or even criminally negligent in a worse case situation or have a hefty bill to hand to their insurance or worse !
Farms are just the same as any business as regards liabilities , the fact some farmers see it differently just shows a lack of knowledge. Putting signs up saying beware is helpful to potential victims own risk assessment but also somewhat an admission of guilt at the same time .

 

[User00036]

When I was a herdsman in another life I could imitate the warble fly buzz. That gets cattle in a panic ,running round with their tails held high.

Ah the dreaded gad fly, running round with their tails up. Hence the term gadding about, applies to young women too!
As to the poor farmer, he had head injuries, sounds like he caught a hoof as they went through the gateway, cattle can sometimes clear the ground like a race horse, twisting & kicking their back feet out when going on to fresh pastures, it always put a smile on my face, but how sad is it this time round.

 

[John Gryphon]

he had head injuries, sounds like he caught a hoof as they went through the gateway,

First bloke in this 2018 report was killed as a heifer went past and gave him a hoof to the head..

A stock agent has died after being trampled by an animal on a cattle farm at Georges Creek near Tallangatta, southeast of Albury Wodonga, according to Worksafe Victoria.

The man, in his late 50s, was drafting cattle in stockyards on the property just before 9am Thursday when he was struck and killed.

WorkSafe Victoria said it is investigating the tragedy.

The man’s death is the first workplace fatality in the State for 2018. It is also the second involving a stock agent to die in Victoria in the past three weeks. A stock agent died on 15 December when he was crushed by a bull at Dunkeld in the state’s west, according to Worksafe Victoria.

The fatality is also the third to involve livestock in five months. In August a 55-year-old man died when he was crushed by a bull at Bamawm, south of Echuca.

 

[Triggermortis]

Its not own risk under legislation though ! Some farms forget that fact and they can / will be held at fault or even criminally negligent in a worse case situation or have a hefty bill to hand to their insurance or worse !
Farms are just the same as any business as regards liabilities , the fact some farmers see it differently just shows a lack of knowledge. Putting signs up saying beware is helpful to potential victims own risk assessment but also somewhat an admission of guilt at the same time .

This explains the current situation in the UK…

Landowners, lockdown walkers and the law

What is your duty of care as a landowner to keep people on your land safe? We explain the law and the steps that you can take to comply.

www.brachers.co.uk