Changing rules on gun ownership - action required - BASC advice

This is the question -

2. Do you consider that the prohibition on possessing firearms should be changed from one that is based solely on length of a custodial sentence following conviction, to one based more on the nature of the offence?​


I think the nature of the offence is far more important than the sentence served.
I can see both sides, but fundamentally the courts impose prison sentences on those whom the think deserve it. Somebody who gets three or five years for whatever they have done should not be able to use firearms.

Some might argue that “white collar” crime is not the same as say murder or GBH. But in the eyes of the law the punishments can be equally harsh as they all have serious impact for their victims. Consequence of being defrauded from your life savings by a ponzi scheme is probably as equally as damaging as being robbed at gunpoint.

At the moment its clear and succinct and no room for argument.

If you go to jail = no longer use of guns.

If your jail sentence is subsequently quashed and overturned then in the eyes of the law you never went to jail.
 
I can see both sides, but fundamentally the courts impose prison sentences on those whom the think deserve it. Somebody who gets three or five years for whatever they have done should not be able to use firearms.

Some might argue that “white collar” crime is not the same as say murder or GBH. But in the eyes of the law the punishments can be equally harsh as they all have serious impact for their victims. Consequence of being defrauded from your life savings by a ponzi scheme is probably as equally as damaging as being robbed at gunpoint.

At the moment its clear and succinct and no room for argument.

If you go to jail = no longer use of guns.

If your jail sentence is subsequently quashed and overturned then in the eyes of the law you never went to jail.

Isn't the law at the moment from the changes of the '68 legislation if you have served between 3 months & 3 years or more you're prohibited for 5 years which seems reasonable.

I agree with you though, Heym
 
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Isn't the law at the moment from the changes of the '68 legislation if you have served between 3 months & 3 years or more you're prohibited for 5 years which seems reasonable.

Sentenced to three years or more = life ban.

Sentenced to three months (but less than five years) = 5 year ban.

21Possession of firearms by persons previously convicted of crime.​

(1)A person who has been sentenced [F1to custody for life or] to preventive detention, or to imprisonment or to corrective training for a term of three years or more [F1or to youth custody [F2or detention in a young offender institution] for such a term], or who has been sentenced be detained for such a term in a young offenders institution in Scotland, shall not at any time have a firearm or ammunition in his possession.

(2)A person who has been sentenced . . . F3 to imprisonment for a term of three months or more but less than three years [F4or to youth custody [F5or detention in a young offender institution] for such a term], or who has been sentenced to be detained for such a term in a detention centre or in a young offenders institution in Scotland [F6or who has been subject to a secure training order [F7or a detention and training order]], shall not at any time before the expiration of the period of five years from the date of his release have a firearm or ammunition in his possession.
 

Sentenced to three years or more = life ban.

Sentenced to three months (but less than five years) = 5 year ban.

21Possession of firearms by persons previously convicted of crime.​

(1)A person who has been sentenced [F1to custody for life or] to preventive detention, or to imprisonment or to corrective training for a term of three years or more [F1or to youth custody [F2or detention in a young offender institution] for such a term], or who has been sentenced be detained for such a term in a young offenders institution in Scotland, shall not at any time have a firearm or ammunition in his possession.

(2)A person who has been sentenced . . . F3 to imprisonment for a term of three months or more but less than three years [F4or to youth custody [F5or detention in a young offender institution] for such a term], or who has been sentenced to be detained for such a term in a detention centre or in a young offenders institution in Scotland [F6or who has been subject to a secure training order [F7or a detention and training order]], shall not at any time before the expiration of the period of five years from the date of his release have a firearm or ammunition in his possession.
Yes, sound.

Cheers @Stalker1962
 
On 29 June the Home Office launched an eight-week consultation on proposals that will impact on the licensing of shotguns and rifles in England, Wales and Scotland for decades to come.

BASC is urging every shotgun and firearm certificate holder in Great Britain to spend five minutes completing a short Home Office survey in response to the consultation, which closes on 23 August 2023.

This is the most important consultation on firearms ownership in 35 years. You must not be silent and think others will do the work for you. The shooting community must respond in numbers. Make sure you have your say.

Recommendations to merge shotgun and firearms licensing conditions have been dropped prior to publication of the consultation. This was due to lobbying by BASC and others, on the grounds that the proposals were neither evidence-led nor proportionate.

However, there remain several harmful proposals that need to be opposed, and several helpful proposals to be supported.

Please click the weblink below to read BASC's advice on completing the Home Office survey

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On 29 June the Home Office launched an eight-week consultation on proposals that will impact on the licensing of shotguns and rifles in England, Wales and Scotland for decades to come.

BASC is urging every shotgun and firearm certificate holder in Great Britain to spend five minutes completing a short Home Office survey in response to the consultation, which closes on 23 August 2023.

This is the most important consultation on firearms ownership in 35 years. You must not be silent and think others will do the work for you. The shooting community must respond in numbers. Make sure you have your say.

Recommendations to merge shotgun and firearms licensing conditions have been dropped prior to publication of the consultation. This was due to lobbying by BASC and others, on the grounds that the proposals were neither evidence-led nor proportionate.

However, there remain several harmful proposals that need to be opposed, and several helpful proposals to be supported.

Please click the weblink below to read BASC's advice on completing the Home Office survey

Done
 
On 29 June the Home Office launched an eight-week consultation on proposals that will impact on the licensing of shotguns and rifles in England, Wales and Scotland for decades to come.

BASC is urging every shotgun and firearm certificate holder in Great Britain to spend five minutes completing a short Home Office survey in response to the consultation, which closes on 23 August 2023.

This is the most important consultation on firearms ownership in 35 years. You must not be silent and think others will do the work for you. The shooting community must respond in numbers. Make sure you have your say.

Recommendations to merge shotgun and firearms licensing conditions have been dropped prior to publication of the consultation. This was due to lobbying by BASC and others, on the grounds that the proposals were neither evidence-led nor proportionate.

However, there remain several harmful proposals that need to be opposed, and several helpful proposals to be supported.

Please click the weblink below to read BASC's advice on completing the Home Office survey

Done
 
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