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Changing rules on gun ownership - action required - BASC advice
- Thread starter Conor O'Gorman
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Pine Marten
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Done! And now I'm going to badger some friends about it too.
Is he likely to fall asleep whilst in possession of his shotgun thereby allowing anyone that walks but to take it from him?
In answer to your question, yes…..
Doesn’t sound like an upstanding individual
“Hart, who escaped the incident unscathed, was later tried at Leeds Crown Court on ten counts of causing death by dangerous driving.[25] He denied the charges, claiming that his car had suffered a mechanical fault or had collided with an object on the road.[26] Although he had witnessed his Land Rover being struck by the intercity train, he claimed to have been unaware of the further collision involving the freight train until he was informed later by police.[27]”
So definitely a no for firearms
“Hart, who escaped the incident unscathed, was later tried at Leeds Crown Court on ten counts of causing death by dangerous driving.[25] He denied the charges, claiming that his car had suffered a mechanical fault or had collided with an object on the road.[26] Although he had witnessed his Land Rover being struck by the intercity train, he claimed to have been unaware of the further collision involving the freight train until he was informed later by police.[27]”
So definitely a no for firearms
Always do
A good point, but I'll have to disagree, depression or mental illness are just that, an illness that can be treated and unlikely to be the fault of the person suffering from it. Breaking the laws that result in a prison term is a conscious act, people don't unknowingly defraud, rob, deal drugs or kill/seriously hurt people
nun_hunter
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I do agree, but depression and mental illness are also linked to circumstances, hence why they can pass with or without treatment.
Crime may be a conscious decision but often too it is a consequence of circumstance.
But still a conscious decision which shows poor character or judgement
Heym SR20
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The courts take sentencing seriously and don’t impose lengthy prison sentences lightly. Sentencing usually happens well after being found guilty and there is plenty of scope for pleas of mitigation etc.
But a prison of over 3 years is imposed by the courts where there is serious misdemeanour.
If you sentenced to less than 3 years you prohibited for a period of 5 years. Somebody who has been lead astray, made a mistake, first time offence etc is likely to be sentenced for a short period of time - less than three years.
Getting a sentence of over three years is either because you are a repeat offender, or you done something pretty serious. And you will have made a choice to do those offences.
So lets take the case of falling asleep at the wheel and crashing onto the mainline. I know of the case but not the detail. The fact that he misled the police, lied etc etc would have been taken into consideration. Lord Archer got four years for purgering - ie telling lies in court.
The law of lifetime ban if prison sentence is over 3 years has been there for a long time. It was decided upon by parliament. Whether it’s 3, 4 or 5 years doesn’t really matter. Fundamentally society, through parliament has deemed that those with a criminal sentence of over three should not be allowed access to firearms for life. It’s clear and simple. Doesn’t matter what the crime was, a 3 year or more sentence has been imposed because the courts found that a serious offence had been committed.
An individual can appeal his sentence and get it overturned.
And we, as members of the public can make our views known in the consultation. If you think that somebody who has served three years or more should be allowed to hold firearms then make your views known in the consultation.
My view is that the current law in this matter is pretty fair.
And as to your comments on speeding. Yes I was caught speeding about 20 years ago and taken to court and received 4 points on my licence. I received a visit from the FEO to inform me that this had been noted and that if it happened again they would take a dim view and question my suitability to hold an FAC.
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Tree Doctor
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On my renewal last year I put two referee’s down for a character reference, apparently they were not even contacted. I think there must be a breakdown in office duty’s. You would think if the police are after all the criteria they would follow it up.
Done but with pm sent re query about air rifle licensing in Scotland.
Also.
Given the Scottish government is indicating it will be more lenient on sentencing, the 3mths / 5yr is becoming a bit farcicle.
Potentially someone who would get 6mths in jail, might in the future under the proposed changes, get a community order.
How does this the stand?
Also.
Given the Scottish government is indicating it will be more lenient on sentencing, the 3mths / 5yr is becoming a bit farcicle.
Potentially someone who would get 6mths in jail, might in the future under the proposed changes, get a community order.
How does this the stand?
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