Hunting Statistics from Finland

There was that lovely story about Finland when they were looking to join the EU.

They were asked by some bureaucrat:-

'How many forests do you have?'

Their understated reply tells me all I need to know, about them, their Country and their humour.

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'One'.
 
The Finns and the Russians have a long history of 'Duking it out'.

I have a Russian Mosin-Nagant rifle, which is a 'Finnish capture' from the early days of the 'Winter War' in WWII.

In fact, the 'new' owner scratched their initials into the stock - 'VH'

These rifles were often fettled by the Finns and turned into much improved firearms.


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<Finns> are a good bunch of folks

I have travelled a bit in Finland and on each occasion was very impressed with their friendly down-to-earth nature. Welcoming, direct, funny. Most speak really good english.

Some conversation examples:

  • whilst travelling in one of the national parks there, we were in a walking group being savagely bitten by an array of blood-sucking insects. The drole Finnish lass next to me said the swarms of biting insects were to remind Finns that they were not already in heaven.
  • On a walk in woods further north in Finland we encountered mushroom pickers. We got chatting. IIRC 4 of them were MDs. Anyhoop, the conversation rolled onto Chernobyl fall out and safety of chomping a plant known to take up heavy metals. Not a problem! Just boil 'shrooms for 5 mins, throw away water and fry. We did. [Apparently most of the metals leach out during boiling]
  • The patter of a tour guide on another trip was all you could hope for as it ranged over every aspect of Finnish culture. For example, "the sauna is so important he said, Finns build that first, and then build their houses around that". He went on , "the copper on the cathedral in St Petersburg...that belongs to Finland. The moose flies that are biting us, they came from Russia".
 
I have travelled a bit in Finland and on each occasion was very impressed with their friendly down-to-earth nature. Welcoming, direct, funny. Most speak really good english.

Some conversation examples:

  • whilst travelling in one of the national parks there, we were in a walking group being savagely bitten by an array of blood-sucking insects. The drole Finnish lass next to me said the swarms of biting insects were to remind Finns that they were not already in heaven.
  • On a walk in woods further north in Finland we encountered mushroom pickers. We got chatting. IIRC 4 of them were MDs. Anyhoop, the conversation rolled onto Chernobyl fall out and safety of chomping a plant known to take up heavy metals. Not a problem! Just boil 'shrooms for 5 mins, throw away water and fry. We did. [Apparently most of the metals leach out during boiling]
  • The patter of a tour guide on another trip was all you could hope for as it ranged over every aspect of Finnish culture. For example, "the sauna is so important he said, Finns build that first, and then build their houses around that". He went on , "the copper on the cathedral in St Petersburg...that belongs to Finland. The moose flies that are biting us, they came from Russia".
A very good Member of Nato to have !
 
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The people of Russia are never the problem, The leadership has been it has haunted those regular people for Centuries unfortunately.
My mum, who lived in Poland until she was 21 in ‘57, would beg to differ.

She was lucky that she was very young after the war, as the older girls were frequently raped by the Russian soldiers - not the leaders!
The family were also lucky in that a Russian major (she thinks as her memory is starting to fade) was billeted in their house so they used to get extra rations.
The lower ranked soldiers on the other hand, went round the farms commandeering what food they could.

She also maintains she’d happily deal with Germans as you knew where you stood with them. With Russians, you never knew if they were your friend or enemy!
 
My mum, who lived in Poland until she was 21 in ‘57, would beg to differ.

She was lucky that she was very young after the war, as the older girls were frequently raped by the Russian soldiers - not the leaders!
The family were also lucky in that a Russian major (she thinks as her memory is starting to fade) was billeted in their house so they used to get extra rations.
The lower ranked soldiers on the other hand, went round the farms commandeering what food they could.

She also maintains she’d happily deal with Germans as you knew where you stood with them. With Russians, you never knew if they were your friend or enemy!
That pretty well mirrors what my late Aunty said. She managed to get out of Poland in the mid 50's.
 
Great people and great hunting. I have many friends in Finland and have taken Moose and Whitetail over the years. They still have national service in place, and the vast majority I have met do not like or trust the Russians.
Whitetail are fab, how do they differ from the UK species?
 
Whitetail are fab, how do they differ from the UK species?
Out of our UK species, I believe roe are most closely related to the whitetail. Whether or not they would be sufficiently closely related to hybridise I'm not sure. I think it has been attempted under captive conditions, I seem to recall reading about it, but I may have misremembered.
They're not native to Finland.
 
Out of our UK species, I believe roe are most closely related to the whitetail. Whether or not they would be sufficiently closely related to hybridise I'm not sure. I think it has been attempted under captive conditions, I seem to recall reading about it, but I may have misremembered.
They're not native to Finland.
Indeed introduced and now invasive.

I have a few sets of antlers but I've found finding a skull of one in the UK to be rather hard, there quite nice looking and dont take up much wall space.
 
My mum, who lived in Poland until she was 21 in ‘57, would beg to differ.

She was lucky that she was very young after the war, as the older girls were frequently raped by the Russian soldiers - not the leaders!
The family were also lucky in that a Russian major (she thinks as her memory is starting to fade) was billeted in their house so they used to get extra rations.
The lower ranked soldiers on the other hand, went round the farms commandeering what food they could.

She also maintains she’d happily deal with Germans as you knew where you stood with them. With Russians, you never knew if they were your friend or enemy!
Treat people bad and they turn bad . Strange isn't it? As the winning side have very rarely been charged in mass for war crimes only the losers.
 
Out of our UK species, I believe roe are most closely related to the whitetail. Whether or not they would be sufficiently closely related to hybridise I'm not sure. I think it has been attempted under captive conditions, I seem to recall reading about it, but I may have misremembered.
They're not native to Finland.
No, Capreolus and Odocoileus can’t interbreed. Although roe are in the same Family (Capreolini or Odocoilini - the New World Deer) as white tails, they’re still very distantly related. Further apart than fallow are from red.

Astonishingly, roe’s closest relatives are moose!
 
Treat people bad and they turn bad . Strange isn't it? As the winning side have very rarely been charged in mass for war crimes only the losers.
I wouldn’t say the Poles were on the winning side.

Poland didn’t invade Russia in 1917, the Russians or Bolsheviks as they were then invaded Poland.
30k professionals (judges, lawyers, senior police officers and more) murdered by the Russians at Katyn at the start of WWII. Millions more by the Germans.
The Russian army sat outside Warsaw for a couple of months to allow the Germans to obliterate the Resistance movement during the Warsaw uprising.
Which meant the Russians could install a puppet government for decades to come.
The Free Polish Army not allowed to march in the VE parade after the war to appease the Russians.
Any senior Polish officer that was returned by the Brits after the war, disappeared within months of being repatriated.

They may have been liberated from the Germans, but were they on the winning side?

The Poles have been treated badly but are they bad?
Have the Russians been treated as badly?
 
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