Temperature Monitoring for the chiller

willie_gunn

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Thought this might be of interest to others who keep a close eye on the carcasses in their chillers.

I have been using a temperature logger in the chiller for some time, which does a great job of tracking the temperature in the chiller throughout the day and producing a useful report for the larder records. However you have to be within Bluetooth range of the logger to be able to access the data. Whilst normally fine, my real job typically involves quite a bit of travel, which makes keeping an eye on the logger something of a challenge. Therefore I've been thinking for a while about finding a way that allows me to monitor the temperatures remotely.

Then last week I received the questionairre from my local authority for the renewal of my Food Business Operator registration, and a question in there about temperature checking gave me the incentive to find a more elegant way of doing things.

I had a look on Amazon and found these WiFi temperature and humidity loggers. For a penny under £28 I thought it was worth a try, so I ordered one which was delivered a couple of days ago.

Amazon product ASIN B08Y8XHNL8
Having downloaded their App onto your phone, you initially use Bluetooth to connect your phone to the logger to do some basic configuration - Celsius or Farenheit, the min/max temperature range to monitor, the refresh rate, etc, - and also to link the logger to your home Wifi network. Once that's done, they just pop the logger into the chiller and off you go.

The App then lets you see the temperature inside the chiller, updated every 10 minutes (this is configurable for a longer refresh rate if needed).

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You can see in the last screenshot above how the logger initially cooled down when placed in the chiller, as well as a couple of "blips" when I've had it open for cleaning, moving the carcass, etc.

You can export the data in a report if you want to maintain a permanent record, and also set up a timed report (every month, etc) to make life a bit easier still. Also you can set a min/max temperature range, with automated alerts if it goes beyond this.

Now when at home I can be monitoring the chiller temperature without having to pop down to the larder. In my case the larder is at the end of the garden, in an old brick outhouse. I was worried as to whether the WiFi signal from the house would be strong enough, so I checked using my phone first before ordering and there were a couple of Wifi bars, certainly sufficient enough for doing a Google search or looking at New Posts on SD. Since installation the logger has performed faultlessly, refreshing the reading on the phone every 10 minutes. My chiller has a double-glazed door, which might help in terms of picking up the WiFi, but I did read about others who were using the loggers to monitor the temperature inside laboratory fridges and freezers without problems. No alerts as yet, but it gives some peace of mind to know that I'll be told about any as soon as they happen.

Extending this, I have also inserted a "smart plug" between the fridge plug and the socket itself. This also hooks up via an App on the phone (albeit a different App to the one above that controls the temperature logger). This now means that, should the chiller be empty and switched off, I can switch it on after I've shot an animal so that by the time I get home it is already down to the right temperature.

Hope this helps others, and if you've got any questions I'll do my best to answer them.
 
There is a problem with your chiller the humidity should be 25-35%

Thanks for that :thumb:. I'd have had no idea otherwise, as it's only with this latest device that the humidity is even being recorded.

What might be the reason, do you think? Could it be the fact that it is in an unheated outbuilding? Or is there something else I should be looking at?

Also would it be worth calibrating the logger for humidity first? I read somewhere about placing the sensor in an airtight bag for 24 hours with a capful of salt (It is truly bizarre what you can find on the internet!).

BTW, the chiller was new three years ago.
 
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Without looking at it I'm not sure, try checking the drain on the evaporator, and checking to evaporator coil temp it should be 6.5c ish less than the box temperature, the last one I looked at doing this had a partially block capillary tube.
I guess you have no idea what I am talking about.
 
Without looking at it I'm not sure, try checking the drain on the evaporator, and checking to evaporator coil temp it should be 6.5c ish less than the box temperature, the last one I looked at doing this had a partially block capillary tube.
I guess you have no idea what I am talking about.

You know me well….

The drain on the evaporator I can probably find through some research, but I’m not so sure on the coil or capillary tube.

A shame you’re not closer, as I’d happily pay to have someone knowledgeable come and look.
 
The evaporator coil is the thing on the inside with the fan sucking or blowing the air off it send me some photos on what's app and I will see if we can sort it over the phone.
 
You know me well….

The drain on the evaporator I can probably find through some research, but I’m not so sure on the coil or capillary tube.

A shame you’re not closer, as I’d happily pay to have someone knowledgeable come and look.
Sikadogs wive likes raw honey. Now work out how I know that. 😂
 
Thought this might be of interest to others who keep a close eye on the carcasses in their chillers.

I have been using a temperature logger in the chiller for some time, which does a great job of tracking the temperature in the chiller throughout the day and producing a useful report for the larder records. However you have to be within Bluetooth range of the logger to be able to access the data. Whilst normally fine, my real job typically involves quite a bit of travel, which makes keeping an eye on the logger something of a challenge. Therefore I've been thinking for a while about finding a way that allows me to monitor the temperatures remotely.

Then last week I received the questionairre from my local authority for the renewal of my Food Business Operator registration, and a question in there about temperature checking gave me the incentive to find a more elegant way of doing things.

I had a look on Amazon and found these WiFi temperature and humidity loggers. For a penny under £28 I thought it was worth a try, so I ordered one which was delivered a couple of days ago.

Amazon product ASIN B08Y8XHNL8
Having downloaded their App onto your phone, you initially use Bluetooth to connect your phone to the logger to do some basic configuration - Celsius or Farenheit, the min/max temperature range to monitor, the refresh rate, etc, - and also to link the logger to your home Wifi network. Once that's done, they just pop the logger into the chiller and off you go.

The App then lets you see the temperature inside the chiller, updated every 10 minutes (this is configurable for a longer refresh rate if needed).

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You can see in the last screenshot above how the logger initially cooled down when placed in the chiller, as well as a couple of "blips" when I've had it open for cleaning, moving the carcass, etc.

You can export the data in a report if you want to maintain a permanent record, and also set up a timed report (every month, etc) to make life a bit easier still. Also you can set a min/max temperature range, with automated alerts if it goes beyond this.

Now when at home I can be monitoring the chiller temperature without having to pop down to the larder. In my case the larder is at the end of the garden, in an old brick outhouse. I was worried as to whether the WiFi signal from the house would be strong enough, so I checked using my phone first before ordering and there were a couple of Wifi bars, certainly sufficient enough for doing a Google search or looking at New Posts on SD. Since installation the logger has performed faultlessly, refreshing the reading on the phone every 10 minutes. My chiller has a double-glazed door, which might help in terms of picking up the WiFi, but I did read about others who were using the loggers to monitor the temperature inside laboratory fridges and freezers without problems. No alerts as yet, but it gives some peace of mind to know that I'll be told about any as soon as they happen.

Extending this, I have also inserted a "smart plug" between the fridge plug and the socket itself. This also hooks up via an App on the phone (albeit a different App to the one above that controls the temperature logger). This now means that, should the chiller be empty and switched off, I can switch it on after I've shot an animal so that by the time I get home it is already down to the right temperature.

Hope this helps others, and if you've got any questions I'll do my best to answer them.
Which smart plug do you use?
 
@sikadog helped me sort my fridge over the phone. He knows what he’s talking about and is very helpful (and patient with us less technically minded types). A true gent!
I doubt that there is a county where @sikadog wouldn't be offered a  thanks stalk or three from the numerous folk he has helped out over the years :thumb:
 
Thought this might be of interest to others who keep a close eye on the carcasses in their chillers.

I have been using a temperature logger in the chiller for some time, which does a great job of tracking the temperature in the chiller throughout the day and producing a useful report for the larder records. However you have to be within Bluetooth range of the logger to be able to access the data. Whilst normally fine, my real job typically involves quite a bit of travel, which makes keeping an eye on the logger something of a challenge. Therefore I've been thinking for a while about finding a way that allows me to monitor the temperatures remotely.

Then last week I received the questionairre from my local authority for the renewal of my Food Business Operator registration, and a question in there about temperature checking gave me the incentive to find a more elegant way of doing things.

I had a look on Amazon and found these WiFi temperature and humidity loggers. For a penny under £28 I thought it was worth a try, so I ordered one which was delivered a couple of days ago.

Amazon product ASIN B08Y8XHNL8
Having downloaded their App onto your phone, you initially use Bluetooth to connect your phone to the logger to do some basic configuration - Celsius or Farenheit, the min/max temperature range to monitor, the refresh rate, etc, - and also to link the logger to your home Wifi network. Once that's done, they just pop the logger into the chiller and off you go.

The App then lets you see the temperature inside the chiller, updated every 10 minutes (this is configurable for a longer refresh rate if needed).

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You can see in the last screenshot above how the logger initially cooled down when placed in the chiller, as well as a couple of "blips" when I've had it open for cleaning, moving the carcass, etc.

You can export the data in a report if you want to maintain a permanent record, and also set up a timed report (every month, etc) to make life a bit easier still. Also you can set a min/max temperature range, with automated alerts if it goes beyond this.

Now when at home I can be monitoring the chiller temperature without having to pop down to the larder. In my case the larder is at the end of the garden, in an old brick outhouse. I was worried as to whether the WiFi signal from the house would be strong enough, so I checked using my phone first before ordering and there were a couple of Wifi bars, certainly sufficient enough for doing a Google search or looking at New Posts on SD. Since installation the logger has performed faultlessly, refreshing the reading on the phone every 10 minutes. My chiller has a double-glazed door, which might help in terms of picking up the WiFi, but I did read about others who were using the loggers to monitor the temperature inside laboratory fridges and freezers without problems. No alerts as yet, but it gives some peace of mind to know that I'll be told about any as soon as they happen.

Extending this, I have also inserted a "smart plug" between the fridge plug and the socket itself. This also hooks up via an App on the phone (albeit a different App to the one above that controls the temperature logger). This now means that, should the chiller be empty and switched off, I can switch it on after I've shot an animal so that by the time I get home it is already down to the right temperature.

Hope this helps others, and if you've got any questions I'll do my best to answer them.
Is it possible to run two of these devices simultaneously? I'd like to put one in the chiller and one in the freezer.
 
Is it possible to run two of these devices simultaneously? I'd like to put one in the chiller and one in the freezer.
No reason I can think of why not. They are individually addressable, so having one in the chiller and one in the freezer shouldn't be an issue. You could even run a third one to capture the ambient temperature or the temperature in the greenhouse too!

The only thing to check will be that the WiFi signal is sufficiently strong.
 
No reason I can think of why not. They are individually addressable, so having one in the chiller and one in the freezer shouldn't be an issue. You could even run a third one to capture the ambient temperature or the temperature in the greenhouse too!

The only thing to check will be that the WiFi signal is sufficiently strong.
I doubt there's WiFi the larder at all 😒
It's not far from the back door of the house (maybe 25ft), but even in the house the WiFi only works in certain places.

I'm quite religious about checking the chiller temp twice a day, but very slack about writing it down. I also tend to overlook the freezer. Something like this would be a big help in remaining compliant. I also like the idea that it would act as an alert if the power supply to the larder were to trip off, which it has been known to do.
 
I doubt there's WiFi the larder at all 😒
It's not far from the back door of the house (maybe 25ft), but even in the house the WiFi only works in certain places.

I'm quite religious about checking the chiller temp twice a day, but very slack about writing it down. I also tend to overlook the freezer. Something like this would be a big help in remaining compliant. I also like the idea that it would act as an alert if the power supply to the larder were to trip off, which it has been known to do.
Our house is the same - something to do with the 12 inch thick walls I guess!

It might be worth trying a couple of WiFi repeaters to see if they can get the wireless to near a window? I did that, expanding our Gigaclear network with some additional Linksys nodes, and inadvertently then found I had wireless coverage in the larder. Even with the temperature sensor in the chiller it still works well.
 
Our house is the same - something to do with the 12 inch thick walls I guess!

It might be worth trying a couple of WiFi repeaters to see if they can get the wireless to near a window? I did that, expanding our Gigaclear network with some additional Linksys nodes, and inadvertently then found I had wireless coverage in the larder. Even with the temperature sensor in the chiller it still works well.
Similar here, but more so!
2ft 6" stone walls and very small windows. Got several repeaters dotted around (including one close to the window that looks out towards the larder), but you've got to be pretty close to one for it to work. At least at the same end of the room.
 
Hi @willie_gunn how are you getting on with this logger - Govee? I am looking for similar thing for my chillers so wanted to check with you before buying these loggers.
 
On the basis of this thread - I bought some Govee temperature monitors and one has revealed unusual behaviour in a freezer...

Screenshot_20230904_170215_Govee Home.webp

This is a domestic, upright, fan freezer - it seems to cycle around -20C and then have this peculiar rise to -14C periodically.

I can't believe this is normal! Anyone any ideas?
 
On the basis of this thread - I bought some Govee temperature monitors and one has revealed unusual behaviour in a freezer...

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This is a domestic, upright, fan freezer - it seems to cycle around -20C and then have this peculiar rise to -14C periodically.

I can't believe this is normal! Anyone any ideas?
My fridge runs a defrost routine on a regular basis - it can be programmed via the controller. Looks like your freezer might be doing something similar, albeit hopefully not a full defrost.
 
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