Telos disappointment.

Helion 2 pro which I use is the evolution of the Helion range the new Telos is the first in the line of a new range that will no doubt also evolve !
If that was used by a retailer to justify the level of performance of any new product I’d be walking out of the shop with wallet intact.
 
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If that was used by a retailer to justify the level of performance of any new product I’d be walking out of the shop with wallet intact.
I paid nearly 5k for the top of the range helion which is amazing I can see cartridges that people have left on their pegs whilst out foxing ... the first helion I bought when they came out was crap in comparison ... think I'll wait till the telos gets a bit more refined , I know it's the first upgradeable etc etc but .....
 
From the comments in this thread I think I’ll stick my original Axion XQ38lrf, I can still spot things way further than I can shoot them and ID them just by movement, I do like to keep up to date on tech and tbh I was expecting the telos to be something special
 
I’m being thick but dies this mean you can’t get the battery out for a spare one to be put in? I like the idea of a spare battery
The battery can be easily removed snd pugged straight in to a USB-C plug or put on to a QI witless charger ti charge- no adapter required. However, I cannot find any spare LPS 7i batteries on sale anywhere at present and I always want to carry a charged spare.
 
The battery can be easily removed snd pugged straight in to a USB-C plug or put on to a QI witless charger ti charge- no adapter required. However, I cannot find any spare LPS 7i batteries on sale anywhere at present and I always want to carry a charged spare.
Thanks for that, they will come surely
 
Watching this thread with interest, but I'm missing any comment on a specific aspect of thermal spotter use:

I wear spectacles and keep them on all the time - yes I know I can take them off and adjust the optics to compensate but then I'll have to put spectacles back on to use scope on the rifle, unless I have adjusted that too, and I'll probably end up losing the specs if I take them off in the field or up a high seat. My binoculars (Swaro, Leica) have eyecups that can adjust to allow spectacle wearers to use them with specs on without any loss of performance (i.e. full field of view and focussing range). Every thermal imager I've tried to date lacks this facility. So with the various Pulsars I've owned I fold back the rubber eyecup - but still have a rather long pupil to screen distance and a restricted field of view - can't see the whole screen without moving the device relative to my eye -I loose the corners. Also on many the actual size of the screen is very small compared to the view in my binoculars - which is tiring to watch.

I'm currently using an Axion XM38 (with eye-cup folded down) which is the most spectacle friendly I've found to date: the narrow field of view combined with loss of some of that field due to wearing specs is a pain but it's very compact and reasonably sensitive and 80% of the time is perfectly adequate. Up a high seat when I've all day to check out the scene in front of me it's fine - but when I come down and set off with it to find the fallen beast I shot 100 yards away, the restricted field of view is a real handicap at closer ranges.

Spectacle friendly, wide field of view and high sensitivity (in rain, fog, mist) would be my priorities. As has been said before in this thread there are plenty devices available capable of spotting & identifying deer way beyond shooting range in good conditions. So I/we don't need ultimate in resolution/detail but do want a large screen, spectacle friendly, wide field of view and higher sensitivity for rain/fog. And preferably small and compact - there's no thermal out there yet that would persuade me to leave my regular binoculars at home, so I'm not too fussed about bi-ocular thermals.

So please can we have some feed back on spectacle friendliness of these top-end (top-price!) thermals? Preferably from habitual spectacle wearers themselves.

Alasdair in the Pentland hills where it's frequently raining and misty!
 
Watching this thread with interest, but I'm missing any comment on a specific aspect of thermal spotter use:

I wear spectacles and keep them on all the time - yes I know I can take them off and adjust the optics to compensate but then I'll have to put spectacles back on to use scope on the rifle, unless I have adjusted that too, and I'll probably end up losing the specs if I take them off in the field or up a high seat. My binoculars (Swaro, Leica) have eyecups that can adjust to allow spectacle wearers to use them with specs on without any loss of performance (i.e. full field of view and focussing range). Every thermal imager I've tried to date lacks this facility. So with the various Pulsars I've owned I fold back the rubber eyecup - but still have a rather long pupil to screen distance and a restricted field of view - can't see the whole screen without moving the device relative to my eye -I loose the corners. Also on many the actual size of the screen is very small compared to the view in my binoculars - which is tiring to watch.

I'm currently using an Axion XM38 (with eye-cup folded down) which is the most spectacle friendly I've found to date: the narrow field of view combined with loss of some of that field due to wearing specs is a pain but it's very compact and reasonably sensitive and 80% of the time is perfectly adequate. Up a high seat when I've all day to check out the scene in front of me it's fine - but when I come down and set off with it to find the fallen beast I shot 100 yards away, the restricted field of view is a real handicap at closer ranges.

Spectacle friendly, wide field of view and high sensitivity (in rain, fog, mist) would be my priorities. As has been said before in this thread there are plenty devices available capable of spotting & identifying deer way beyond shooting range in good conditions. So I/we don't need ultimate in resolution/detail but do want a large screen, spectacle friendly, wide field of view and higher sensitivity for rain/fog. And preferably small and compact - there's no thermal out there yet that would persuade me to leave my regular binoculars at home, so I'm not too fussed about bi-ocular thermals.

So please can we have some feed back on spectacle friendliness of these top-end (top-price!) thermals? Preferably from habitual spectacle wearers themselves.

Alasdair in the Pentland hills where it's frequently raining and misty!
Alasdair the Helion and Telos models have huge Super Amoled displays and they work great if you wear glasses, the screen size feels much larger and more viewable than the earlier Axion range.
 
It seems Telos have some home work to do. Just like ATN X-Sight 5. Advice: don't buy revolutionary devices first year.
Same with any new release, hype hype hype, best thing since sliced bread.

See them struggling to re sell a while later for a big loss.

It's not just the shooting optics industry,don't even buy a brand new generation release BMW bike....
 
Either the unit I’m looking through is faulty, or something is amiss. Because the images from the device aren’t even comparable to that video.
Would be very impressed if they were that clear.

Maybe a daft question then - but are you focusing it ?
 
Any body got the Hit GYRPHON GQ50 LRF , or tried it ???
I've had one for a while now.
It's the older sensor - same as used in the Thunder, Panther and Stellar.
It's OK, but it has that stupid optical channel and image fusion which is a complete waste of time and makes the whole thing bigger and bulkier than it needs to be.
If you need a Thermal with an LRF, then it's do, if you don;t need an LRF, get a Falcon

Cheers

Bruce
 
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