'The Common Ground Forum on Sustainable Upland Deer Management'- Another White Elephant?

“The Common Ground Forum has evolved out of the Finding the Common Ground project which ran from May 2021 – July 2023, which made clear strides towards building the trust that will be needed to overcome the conflicts that have held the deer management sector back for years and even decades.”

Please forgive me I only got as far as the 2nd paragraph before switching off………………
 
I does read like awful quango speak.

Not to be confused ( or maybe !) with a program called Common Purpose which may have been very successful in politicising our public “services”.
 
Centre for Good Relations is working with Scottish Gamekeepers Association and stalkers to scope out how to promote and support confidence-building in deer managers/stalkers to help them engage more effectively with peers and the wider deer management community, and to give them a more equal voice in deer management discussions.
Engage more effectively with peers, other way round me 🤔
 
I does read like awful quango speak.

Not to be confused ( or maybe !) with a program called Common Purpose which may have been very successful in politicising our public “services”.
Definitely official "Quango Speak"........ The wording of the whole programme will have had hours spent on it and numerous meetings with "stake holders" to ensure no-one (of any ability/race/creed/disability/colour/sexuality etc. etc. ad infinitum!) felt left out or harmed in any way in the formation of yet another vague talk shop....

And at the end of it all, the usual powerful and vested interests (ie The SNP in the form of NatureScot and their fellow travellers in the RSPB etc) will decide what is happening and everyone else will have to take what's given. Having seen the useless and inept Government go through endless "consultation" exercises and promptly ignore all evidence and scientific input and come to the same conclusions that they were going to come up with anyway, sadly I have little or no faith in any Scottish Government (sic) exercises.
The continued worshiping at the feet of the foreign owned fake Salmon industry should be an example of how little trust anyone should have in our hopeless political leaders......
 
Definitely official "Quango Speak"........ The wording of the whole programme will have had hours spent on it and numerous meetings with "stake holders" to ensure no-one (of any ability/race/creed/disability/colour/sexuality etc. etc. ad infinitum!) felt left out or harmed in any way in the formation of yet another vague talk shop....

And at the end of it all, the usual powerful and vested interests (ie The SNP in the form of NatureScot and their fellow travellers in the RSPB etc) will decide what is happening and everyone else will have to take what's given. Having seen the useless and inept Government go through endless "consultation" exercises and promptly ignore all evidence and scientific input and come to the same conclusions that they were going to come up with anyway, sadly I have little or no faith in any Scottish Government (sic) exercises.
The continued worshiping at the feet of the foreign owned fake Salmon industry should be an example of how little trust anyone should have in our hopeless political leaders......
Unfortunately in many ways the damage is done. Even when the SNP and the faux Greens are out of office nothing will be repealed it never is and their place persons cats or whatever they self identify as will just go on feeding at the trough.
 
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I wonder if there would be mileage in starting a political party with the basic manifesto centred around ripping out all the s**** passed and troughs installed over the last 15 odd years as a starter.
Basic premise being to reduce the number of laws in force by a minimum of 10% each year of the elected term
Ripping out the baby box, gaelic signage and similar trash nonsense has to be a winning proposition
Spend half whats saved on improving the roads and sorting public order including rural policing.
 
I wonder if there would be mileage in starting a political party with the basic manifesto centred around ripping out all the s**** passed and troughs installed over the last 15 odd years as a starter.
Basic premise being to reduce the number of laws in force by a minimum of 10% each year of the elected term
Ripping out the baby box, gaelic signage and similar trash nonsense has to be a winning proposition
Spend half whats saved on improving the roads and sorting public order including rural policing.

Absolutely nothing to do with the premise of this thread... :banghead:
 

I don't have much confidence in this being effective, but I'm sure much monies (probably public funded) will be hosed up the walls in pursuit of their 'objectives', however indefinite and aspirational they may be.
Let's not write it off before they have even started, their objectives are sound. To my mind 'we' need to try and get around the table with SNH, RSPB, NTS, JMT etc to try and help them understand the consequences of some of their actions/proposals
 
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