Turn in mount base query again (Ron Wharton)

[JMH123]

How important is the ability to detach the scope while out in the wild? If it’s not I’d be tempted to put a couple of spots of weld or braze on the underside of the base with the ring aligned in position.

I acknowledge that it’s quite a robust solution!!!

Another option would be one of the Loctite engineering retaining compounds to quite simply ‘glue’ the ring into position. They’re very high performing adhesives that operate under high industrial loads and temperatures.

Loctite Engineering Adhesives: Threadlocking Adhesive & Flange Sealants

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I don’t need to remove the rings/ bases at all once in position (and it will only ever have a 6x42 Swaro). That’s a good idea- remove the base, weld the ring, and reattach the base. Only issue might be I suspect the base is affixed/glued to the rifle in addition to the screws. But, I could as you say loctite/epoxy/similar the ring spud into the base whilst leaving the base unmolested. Especially if I use one of their heat sensitive products (like some of their thread locks) so the ring could be removed if required in future. This is just the sort of lateral thinking I need! Thanks.

 

[Klenchblaize]

Ahh, the old ‘jimmy rigging’

Indeed but a workable solution, provided one understands and allows for the consequence of each bodge ‘adjustment’ as I describe.

I still believe the best approach - funds permitting - is for the Op to put these bases in his gun room rummage bin and install a set of aesthetically pleasing Conetrol or S&K rings & mounts. The design of both provide a timeless look that will only complement a fine rifle of any vintage as they ‘add’ nothing:


Ps: Both manufacturers offer fluted bases that would further compliment those currently on the Op’s rifle.

K

 

[Andy RV]

Make sure you use a retaining compound, rather than a threadlock, they’re different.

 

[JMH123]

You could do something similar with steel Devcon but not sure if you can remove the front mount with the lower ring half in position. That said you could make tiny indexing marks for realignment once both removed. You would also need to ensure the scope’s windage is set 50X50 and then at least know the point of aim will get you on paper at 100 yards c/o the rear mount adjustment.

Once you’ve bonded the front assembly in place, any attempt to move the rear of the scope would be putting stress on the main tube as the front ring can no longer move pivot!

K

I’ve tested with a matching spare front mount base which Margarita (Ron’s widow) gave me. The base needs to be attached to the rifle for the spud to have any turn resistance. So, probably better to loctite with the mount in situ in order to ensure the ring is central.

 

[JMH123]

Indeed but a workable solution, provided one understands and allows for the consequence of each bodge ‘adjustment’ as I describe.

I still believe the best approach - funds permitting - is for the Op to put these bases in his gun room rummage bin and install a set of aesthetically pleasing Conetrol or S&K rings & mounts. The design of both provide a timeless look that will only complement a fine rifle of any vintage as they ‘add’ nothing:

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Ps: Both manufacturers offer fluted bases that would further compliment those currently on the Op’s rifle.

K

Considering replacement, but keen to retain Ron’s original bases, if I can.

 

[JMH123]

Make sure you use a retaining compound, rather than a threadlock, they’re different.

I’m also wondering if it would be better to tap up the spud in some way in order to make it a tighter fit in the base- and so avoiding any loctite or similar.

 

[Andy RV]

Yes that did come to mind, personally I’d start with a retaining compound and if that doesn’t work move to a more invasive option.

 

[JMH123]

Eureka! Margarita has sent me a slightly different style of Redfield mount (unused), and these fit perfectly! Had to use a 1 inch bar to turn the front ring in- snugly in position. I suspect the problem previously referred was a consequence of using used rings- with the spud slightly worn. Once I get the stock back I’ll mount the scope.

 

[HonestJohn]

Eureka! Margarita has sent me a slightly different style of Redfield mount (unused), and these fit perfectly! Had to use a 1 inch bar to turn the front ring in- snugly in position. I suspect the problem previously referred was a consequence of using used rings- with the spud slightly worn. Once I get the stock back I’ll mount the scope.

amazing! well done!