HonestJohn
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It's like hunting with iron sights, same thing. I don't know anyone who takes open sight shots past 50 anyway
Legality and Efficacy of Bowhunting in the UK
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OllieRiordanDeer
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I think the same could be said for a single shot rifle in dense woodland. However I do agree the limit in range could limit your ability to follow up.
OllieRiordanDeer
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Agreed, I had a Henry in .243 with sights and it's an absolute rush
OllieRiordanDeer
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My only thought about stipulation on FAC (or a hunting permit of some kind) was that it still allows those who use a bow for targetry alone to own one without a licence. The hunters would need to apply to hunt with one.
Again what is you back up shot ollie? As the thread is about bow hunting not a single shot rifle
Morkai
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I wouldnt even have them on license for hunting.
OllieRiordanDeer
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I'm absolutely with you Tim the ability to place a back up shot is severely reduced. Apologies if my response seemed otherwise!Again what is you back up shot ollie? As the thread is about bow hunting not a single shot rifle
I suppose you would have to place more faith in the arrrow's ability to do its job and also ensure you're firing at much reduced ranges to ensure a clean strike. Shot placement would definitely be more critical than with a rifle.
OllieRiordanDeer
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Definitely a strong argument to be made for this. My thought was that it would improve the likelihood of it being legalised if on a licence not because I think they should be regulated.
Faith had a sister called hope..........So what is you limit on range as you//our pulled shot is know a despatch issue ?
From what I’ve seen, admittedly it may not be the full picture, from videos on YouTube etc. bowhunting seems to be a case of sitting in a blind or up a tree waiting for an animal to visit a feed stand or even follow a trail on a game ranch. That’s to say you’re looking at playing the waiting game until a suitable quarry animal comes within your effective killing zone.
This simply wouldn’t work with the deer we have here - try getting within bow range of a mob of fallow in a field of winter wheat! Maybe you could stalk a roe buck in the rut or call a Muntjac into range but that’s not going to cut it when you’re trying to cull large numbers of does in the winter months.
I’m sure those north of the border will highlight similar issues with reds on the hill, or even roe.
Sorry, but to me it’s just not an effective solution to the need to manage a growing deer population.
Tin hat on & awaiting incoming!!
This simply wouldn’t work with the deer we have here - try getting within bow range of a mob of fallow in a field of winter wheat! Maybe you could stalk a roe buck in the rut or call a Muntjac into range but that’s not going to cut it when you’re trying to cull large numbers of does in the winter months.
I’m sure those north of the border will highlight similar issues with reds on the hill, or even roe.
Sorry, but to me it’s just not an effective solution to the need to manage a growing deer population.
Tin hat on & awaiting incoming!!
Quite and well put..
OllieRiordanDeer
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Hopefully their cousin Mercy turns up too
I wouldn't feel comfortable taking a shot with a bow outside of 40 yards on a Red size animal. Closer to 30 on a Roe.
However I know there are those much more accomplished with a bow than me who can take animals out to 60+
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OllieRiordanDeer
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I certainly wouldn't suggest it as a tool for deer management. Simply not as likely to get within range of an animal I agree.
The Bowhunting I've done has been mostly stalking rather than using tree stands and as a sporting pursuit it provides challenge and more satisfaction upon getting your quarry (for me at least). Insert some cliche about outwitting nature, fair chase blah blah blah!
There’s your answer then.Hopefully their cousin Mercy turns up too
I wouldn't feel comfortable taking a shot with a bow outside of 40 yards on a Red size animal. Closer to 30 on a Roe.
If you want to outwit your quarry, have a fair chase, blah, blah, blah then try stalking fallow in woodland! Closest shot I’ve taken on one btw was a lot less than 30m.
You could have said that earlier.....Have you shot a Red as they are a bit of a lump!Hopefully their cousin Mercy turns up too
I wouldn't feel comfortable taking a shot with a bow outside of 40 yards on a Red size animal. Closer to 30 on a Roe.
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OllieRiordanDeer
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You could have said that earlier.....Have you shot a Red as they are a bit of a lump!
I can't add the dulling banjos music as it might be a copyright issue
He's a bloody lump alright! Surprised the wagon didn't rock up on the back wheels! Where was he taken?
I've only taken Reds with a rifle never with a bow. Though I have been witness to an Elk being taken with one in the states.
OllieRiordanDeer
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Agreed, excellent way to spend a day. I haven't quite got that close on Fallow, though I took a Roe Doe last year at around 10m! I'd still say 30m on a Fallow is the more impressive feat.
But as you mentioned, in terms of deer management I'll take a 12x Optic, sticks and a bolt action 6.5 Creedmoor every day of the week
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No Matter what arguments you put forward that'll never happen.
OllieRiordanDeer
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You could well be right Slider!
I'd be curious to know what barriers you think are currently in place and any solutions to them?
Or alternatively reasons why you believe it shouldn't be legalised?
Many thanks
One on top of two
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Packham and his gang would absolutely eat us alive and so would the rest of the fluffy animal brigade .
You only have to read some of the stupid posts on hear were some cant even zero a scope or work out the hold over for 200m
We would be seeing pictures of deer walking about with a broad-head poking out of its arse on the 6 pm news .
Christ you only have to look at the devastation the man can do to our legal countryside sports with 25K and a go fund me page !
Half the reason we allowed the rifles we have IS for shooting deer , how long would it be before we hear someone report back saying they have just had a variation for said rifle turned down and was told to go buy a bow
Its a stupid f—-king idea
If you want to go wounding deer with a bow f—k off to the states and do it !
Just my out dated opinion .
You only have to read some of the stupid posts on hear were some cant even zero a scope or work out the hold over for 200m
We would be seeing pictures of deer walking about with a broad-head poking out of its arse on the 6 pm news .
Christ you only have to look at the devastation the man can do to our legal countryside sports with 25K and a go fund me page !
Half the reason we allowed the rifles we have IS for shooting deer , how long would it be before we hear someone report back saying they have just had a variation for said rifle turned down and was told to go buy a bow
Its a stupid f—-king idea
If you want to go wounding deer with a bow f—k off to the states and do it !
Just my out dated opinion .
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