Thinking of reloading,

as at the moment my loads maybe a one time thing, i wrote to loads on some masking tape and stick it on the box lid, i also know what order i put them in as its written in my load book,
none of this helped when out of the 40 only 6 were in place o_O now back in the correct box with no chance of it happening again,
 
My system is - after you have sized the case put the case with the head down into the holder which indicates a non primered case , then the next op is to take the case & prime this case and you then put it back into the same hole in the holder with the head & primer up, you will then notice any missed/unprimed cases, tnow to put the powder in/charge take this case add the powder & place the case back into the same position now with primered head down and pop the required bullet into the neck with the point down, this helps to avoid double charges if you do this every time and keeps muck etc out of the inside of the case. When the lets say 50x are all done take a charged case & bullet and seat it then put it back into the same hole.
Easy to keep to a system. Like wiping after doing a jobbie.
 
My system is - after you have sized the case put the case with the head down into the holder which indicates a non primered case , then the next op is to take the case & prime this case and you then put it back into the same hole in the holder with the head & primer up, you will then notice any missed/unprimed cases, tnow to put the powder in/charge take this case add the powder & place the case back into the same position now with primered head down and pop the required bullet into the neck with the point down, this helps to avoid double charges if you do this every time and keeps muck etc out of the inside of the case. When the lets say 50x are all done take a charged case & bullet and seat it then put it back into the same hole.
Easy to keep to a system. Like wiping after doing a jobbie.
that sounds like a good plan to follow thanks, i guess its all about getting a rhythm going and keep a good check on things, iv noticed im doing a few things now that you guys have suggested, that are now engrained in my brain, im confident it will all come together soon 👍 and when the next newbie comes along wanting advise i will have some for him, dont get your scales mixed up, use the correct sized ammo box, and ffs make sure you prime your cases before charging them and seating the bullet,:rofl:
 
a couple of questions if a may,

can i reload some once used 5.56 brass thats been given to me,
different makes of brass are all ok to use aren't they, i have hornady, sako and ADI,
and do make of primers make much if any difference as i have 200 CCI then i will be onto the 1000 Geco primers, it would seem that its get what you can whilst you can at the moment,
 
Keep me posted on scales please, may pick up a set as a back up 👍🏻
I have a pair just like that, same model, got them a pound cheaper on Amazon, works fine to 0.02gn repeatable. One "seed" or pellet of RS60 is about 0.02 to 0.03 grains.

I use it to check every load that comes off the balance: I use an RCBS Uniflow to get the charge minus 0.5 grain, then use an RCBS balance with a TargetMaster trickler for the final load. I check every load on that little electronic scale.

The main lab scale I have is 10x more accurate but takes longer to settle when doing a batch, hence the cheap and cheerful one is the one that gets the use.

On the errors I have noted, the Uniflow can be miles out if one has not tapped it hard to get the load out, and even then 0.5 grain error is not unusual. The Targetmaster is good to about +/-0.04 grains, until the thing moves (plan to add an LED to it to say when the sensor is activated, so it can be set up better), and when it moves on the balance, it may be out by any amount and hopefully notices the balance arm going to the wrong place.

BTW: I know the international symbol for grains is gr, but as grams also starts with gr, I always use gn and ignore those who think I am a numpty. It is because I am a numpty that does not trust myself not to misread gr as grams on a bad day. Not that 56 grams of any powder would actually fit into any case I have, nor have I ever put the scales on grams instead of grains, but there may a day to come where I do something even dumber than the dumb things I have done already like a fine adjustment using a fraction of a grain that does fit the case when done in grams.

On the 5.56 question:
can i reload some once used 5.56 brass thats been given to me,
different makes of brass are all ok to use aren't they, i have hornady, sako and ADI,
and do make of primers make much if any difference as i have 200 CCI then i will be onto the 1000 Geco primers, it would seem that its get what you can whilst you can at the moment,
Answer is yes so long as they are Boxer primers. NATO rounds can be Berdan primers, which are a real pain to deal with: drilling them out and swaging in a piece of 0.22LR case so they fit Boxer primers, is probably more than you wish to take on at the moment. Even getting Berdan primers out is a pain, as they have two flash holes, neither of which are central to the case.
However case capacities vary between manufacturers so ensure you check each with GRT and don't interchange them when testing your grouping. Also, different bullets of the same weight from different manufacturers often (usually) need slightly different loads.
On Boxer primers, there is not a lot of difference in Large Rifle primers. I don't know about the smaller primers.
 
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a couple of questions if a may,

can i reload some once used 5.56 brass thats been given to me,
different makes of brass are all ok to use aren't they, i have hornady, sako and ADI,
and do make of primers make much if any difference as i have 200 CCI then i will be onto the 1000 Geco primers, it would seem that its get what you can whilst you can at the moment,

Don't complicate your process , keep it simple . Don't mix brass , as has been stated by AlexD , case volumes vary and the effects on pressure you've witnessed on GRT .

Put the 5.56 brass to one side and forget about it for now , it requires more case preparation than your other brass .

When developing a load , remain with the same components , do not mix components . If you change one component you may need to redevelop the load , this includes primers . Changing primers can have an effect on accuracy and velocities , changing cases may have a huge effect on pressure , as previously discussed .

Remember to write the charge weight on the bullets as suggested by gixer1 , as you load each weight . If the bullets are too small , simply colour them with different colours and make a note .
 
That's great advice above!!

When I started I wasn't getting the results I hoped for, so changed 1 component at a time, fortunately for me I chose primers first...bingo! Groups shrank considerably and its been my recipe since!
 
Don't complicate your process , keep it simple . Don't mix brass , as has been stated by AlexD , case volumes vary and the effects on pressure you've witnessed on GRT .

Put the 5.56 brass to one side and forget about it for now , it requires more case preparation than your other brass .

When developing a load , remain with the same components , do not mix components . If you change one component you may need to redevelop the load , this includes primers . Changing primers can have an effect on accuracy and velocities , changing cases may have a huge effect on pressure , as previously discussed .

Remember to write the charge weight on the bullets as suggested by gixer1 , as you load each weight . If the bullets are too small , simply colour them with different colours and make a note .
thanks, i wont bother with the 5.56 brass then, it was given to me but theres only 20 or so,
 
They look worse after ultrasonic cleaning than they did before! Now I am asking what is the trick, with a different slant on the question.
I gave up polishing cases sometime ago but on this occasion I’ve dug out my tumbler to a;- provide the Op with a little encouragement and b;- avoid confusion when the cases are annealed by a kind & helpful SD member:
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I have a pair just like that, same model, got them a pound cheaper on Amazon, works fine to 0.02gn repeatable. One "seed" or pellet of RS60 is about 0.02 to 0.03 grains.

I use it to check every load that comes off the balance: I use an RCBS Uniflow to get the charge minus 0.5 grain, then use an RCBS balance with a TargetMaster trickler for the final load. I check every load on that little electronic scale.

The main lab scale I have is 10x more accurate but takes longer to settle when doing a batch, hence the cheap and cheerful one is the one that gets the use.

On the errors I have noted, the Uniflow can be miles out if one has not tapped it hard to get the load out, and even then 0.5 grain error is not unusual. The Targetmaster is good to about +/-0.04 grains, until the thing moves (plan to add an LED to it to say when the sensor is activated, so it can be set up better), and when it moves on the balance, it may be out by any amount and hopefully notices the balance arm going to the wrong place.

BTW: I know the international symbol for grains is gr, but as grams also starts with gr, I always use gn and ignore those who think I am a numpty. It is because I am a numpty that does not trust myself not to misread gr as grams on a bad day. Not that 56 grams of any powder would actually fit into any case I have, nor have I ever put the scales on grams instead of grains, but there may a day to come where I do something even dumber than the dumb things I have done already like a fine adjustment using a fraction of a grain that does fit the case when done in grams.

On the 5.56 question:

Answer is yes so long as they are Boxer primers. NATO rounds can be Berdan primers, which are a real pain to deal with: drilling them out and swaging in a piece of 0.22LR case so they fit Boxer primers, is probably more than you wish to take on at the moment. Even getting Berdan primers out is a pain, as they have two flash holes, neither of which are central to the case.
However case capacities vary between manufacturers so ensure you check each with GRT and don't interchange them when testing your grouping. Also, different bullets of the same weight from different manufacturers often (usually) need slightly different loads.
On Boxer primers, there is not a lot of difference in Large Rifle primers. I don't know about the smaller primers.
Who in NATO loads 5.56 with berdan primers? just curious.
 
Nice to see it coming together 👍, it'll all seem less complicated now .

I'd try 22.2 and 22.8 grains of 10x with the 55grain SPT . You may be able to improve on your 22.5 grain load .
Sierra data shows 22.9 grains as max .

It'll be interesting to see how N133 compares .
thanks
i will give those ago, this week ill be using the N-133 and get out when i can to test them,
i actually asked in the shop for gamekings, wasn't till i got home i saw they were spitzers,
so i will get some gamekings and blitzkings as they did very well in the ADI factory loads, better than the hornady v-max and sako, 👍
 
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