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Best IR torch for the new Hikmicro Alpex 4K
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My shooting buddy has just bought the blade. As an owner of the original dark engine I was really impressed .
The controls are much improved with the infinite ir power adjuster instead of the three position button, the battery indicator, a really smooth beam adjuster and of course it weighs less. Performance is great too.
The controls are much improved with the infinite ir power adjuster instead of the three position button, the battery indicator, a really smooth beam adjuster and of course it weighs less. Performance is great too.
Plummer
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Great post..
Can you please put an image up of what you call a low cost 50mm AS LED please.. I'm new to all the Night equipment .. ..
BenBhoy
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Night Blaster LED IR Torch
The Nightblaster LED IR torch provides clean imaging and works excellent for HikMicro Alpex, Pulsar C50 and other night vision scope models.
www.blackwoodoutdoors.co.uk
Something like that I guess Mr Blackwood means.
BenBhoy
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Great idea & top offer
Yes they work excellent with the Alpex, C50, Zulus models too, nice clean image.Night Blaster LED IR Torch
The Nightblaster LED IR torch provides clean imaging and works excellent for HikMicro Alpex, Pulsar C50 and other night vision scope models.
Something like that I guess Mr Blackwood means.
Pellet Pinger
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Id be looking for the smallest diameter torch you can get away with, look at the state of that!
Solaris doesn't work the best with the 4K, none of the VCSELS do , I'd say VCSEL are excellent for rear add ons, due to the poor IR transmission of the optics and multiple lenses.
The solaris beam is too tight for the Alpex 4K FOV, I'd say the little Zulus VCSEL IR gives a cleaner image than most other vcsels I've tried...
LED gives a cracking image, at most peoples shooting ranges...on the Alpex, etc <200yds ..
At night go and take a ShootNC target and place it 40yds away, look through with a VCSEL and you will notice the image has very small tiny artefacts in it, also there is a sort of reflection back that actually loses detail on some smooth surfaces... The small inner rings will not be visible on the target. For a quick example look through a Pard DS35 you will not see the target inner rings clearly...
Swap to an LED illuminator and the target will be crystal clear, the image silky smooth and no artefacts at all... you will also vividly see the smaller inner rings of the target and shot impact with more definition..
This image difference is noticeable in the field also , the LED retains a very smooth detailed image, but the VCSEL although having more intensity and further throw obviously from being laser based , has nowhere near as clean an image, diffused on non diffused makes no difference.
Thats why for C50, Alpex A50T, Alpex A50E , you don't need anything more under <200yds, they cost less than <£50 , the image on close range rats and rabbits and flood ability is unreal, pin sharp. They work much better also on the likes of an NV008S (transform them) and IMO the Zulus looks great with these also..
All of the footage I upload of rats and rabbits is using a 50mm LED 95% of the time.
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zerovarm
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Is an LED going to get you the range over a VCSEL on a dedicated fox rig Ian?
VCSEL has the edge on distance, but there not as clean as LED so depends on your need, shooting distance and image quality you want.
Pellet Pinger
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Yep, when i first bought the C50 a little T38 LED torch gave a great image, then like most people i got sucked into trying to see into the next county
zerovarm
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Suppose it's as you said, try a few for yourself and decide. Nice to "see" further but image quality for shooting out to 250 yards is the requirement.
zerovarm
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Everyone wants to see 1000 yards. Always great seeing the foxes that won't come to the callerYep, when i first bought the C50 a little T38 LED torch gave a great image, then like most people i got sucked into trying to see into the next county
Don't get me wrong you can still view way out... but it will drop off quicker than the more intense vcsel, depending on model that is...Everyone wants to see 1000 yards. Always great seeing the foxes that won't come to the caller
BenBhoy
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I'd be looking for my bolt first!!!
zerovarm
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And here it is compared with the more usual 50mm Yukon style lens. That's an even starker difference, particularly the weight and our (now old fashioned DE MAX) is the lightest / smallest of these 'Sunnrangers'.
Rule of thumb is if you are air rifle shooting, then you can get away with the supplied IR or a cheap T20 38mm AS LED if it didn't come with one and you are an economy enthusiast...or a posh one if you want to see further:
Black Sun 2 B22 IR illuminator
www.nightvisionstore.co.uk
A bigger heavier 50mm isn't needed. The only reason to use a bigger lens on an IR is to make the beam 'tighter.
But for most users the Dark Engine BLADE is the one to go for. It gives you the most versatility and ability to see well into your backdrop.
Black Sun Dark Engine BLADE IR illuminator
www.nightvisionstore.co.uk
Cheers
Clive
BenBhoy
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Discovered (painfully) last night the pic rail on side of 008S means my finger hits underside of mount for led torch working bolt on my anschutz.
Other than moving pard mount further forward (and altering head position+eye relief) what are my options? No offence to all the left hookers, but why did pard put rail on side most people's bolt will be on??
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Is this likely to be a lot better than one one supplied with the Alpex? I don’t use IR much but I must say I really struggle with the one that came with!
Yes it's better...
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