Camo or No?
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I've done it, not a smack but I sneaked in on a couched Chinese Water Deer from about 150m away across open ground and tapped it on the haunch with my shooting sticksIf you can get close to crows, you can smack a deer on the arse!
And I’ve seen that done
I was surprised that I could do it, but not as surprised as the deer or my friend who challenged me to do it
Literally scared the sh_t out of the little deer and I thought my friend would die laughing
And I wasn't wearing cammo or even a face veil
kenbro
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Cammo absolutely for the wearers benefit.I've always subscribed to the notion that, when shooting, camo is mainly worn for the benefit of the person inside it. For this reason I tend to avoid it whenever possible, in much the same way as I avoid anything "tactical".
Military have spent big money perfecting cammo for men an machines.
You pick your cammo (Might be all white) to suit the terrain.
How people can say cammo doesn’t work is beyond me.
Ken.
With respect, the military use cammo to hide from people, not deer. People see things differently.
It's not that it doesn't work with deer, it's just that it's not necessary. Other tactics are more effective.
For some stalkers, not being seen by other people might be a good reason to don cammo, but for other stalkers, who may interact with the public quite a bit while out with a rifle, cammo is best avoided as it can cause alarm.
Merlyn
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The military are being looked for by other military. Humans. Deer eyes are totally different in colour perception.
kenbro
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A man in a ghillie suit standing by an hedge could move more than a person not dressed for the occasion without alerting deer.
Definition exaggerates any movement.
Ken.
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John Gryphon
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And nature did a long long time before man camo.
Well they have their heads in the sand. We walk up to a hare or a rabbit in its seat....subdued but supreme camo, the camo birds, the camo game the Kudu 600lbs of big bastard standing in scrub...ah those stripes!
The man in the ghillie suit will be seen less of in the field, period.
People can argue all they like and yes it is not necessary but when the stalker wants to get up close and personal IE a few yards without the deer making you out then the camo (leaf suit) is extraordinarily successful.
I like it, my current main hunting rifle looks a bit like that pattern. It's a McMillan stock with a similar mix of greys.
Is it necessary? Probably not
Can it look good? Aye, for sure - but can look "weekend warrior" if done badly
If you have the option, the money and it's done well - then why not?
kenbro
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I wonder how many that say cammo doesn’t work cover their face when woodland stalking?
Cheers. Ken.
John Gryphon
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I think that you may mean CAMO their face of course.
White Spider
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I've tried a balaclava, but being a glasses wearer, it directs my breath over my glasses and steams them up, perhaps I should cut a mouth hole.
John Gryphon
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A hanging face veil is best. The `clava will direct breath to binos as well. The `clava does not disguise the shape of the human head either a shape that deer react to. Floppy hat and veil is good.
Floppy hat and beard does the job
kenbro
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Paint or veil. (Noun.)
Ken.
south-nofolk-stalker
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Never used one personally, never needed too , just another thing to get In the way and steam my glasses up
kenbro
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Suppose you’ll never know if you missed any opportunities…..
Ken.
south-nofolk-stalker
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Maybe and maybe not, but I no longer care if I missed opportunities or not, I’m not that desperate these days to pull the trigger
Big difference between what people want and what actually works or is necessary.
What people want is really just a matter of fashion. Right now, tacticool is in, so camo sticks will sell well.
But you don’t need them. At all. Hundreds of thousands of deer have been shot by people with plain black plastic stocks or plain wood. The stock is small and irregular enough that it has a tiny visual signature. Added to which, deer really aren’t terribly sensitive to colour (other than blue). Provided you move slowly and don’t have anything high contrast, pretty much any colour or pattern works.
Of all the variables affecting hunt success, stock colour is so far down the list it really isn’t worth worrying about. Though you knew that, didn’t you…
HonestJohn
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I think this has gone down a sidetrack - we were last discussing if Weatherby should be focusing on importing camo stocks or plains stocks- and if camo, any particular designs that sell best.
I was just going to poke Weatherby and say, look what you have started?I think this has gone down a sidetrack - we were last discussing if Weatherby should be focusing on importing camo stocks or plains stocks- and if camo, any particular designs that sell best.
So just to get back on camo track. @WeatherbyUK , are you at the game fair this year? We can admire the latest style and pass comment, and don’t forget my left hand 223 that I may want to look at.
