long_range_rob
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I’ll be interested to see how Surrey get on with my sons application then. Thirty years medical records for a man of 19 years 
Dr refused to complete medical form.
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tim@tcs
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There are a number of professional occupational health companies that do work related medicals to allow people to work in various industries.
As I am over 55 in my industry I have to have a medical every five years changing to annually at 60. This is even for office work but I also have to pass a safety critical drug and alcohol screening every time I change roles and if expected to work in a licensed area.
I’m not expected to pay for any of the medical examinations or screenings or even the renewable every two years safety course. These are all to ensure my employer isn’t liable for me dropping dead at work.
Simple liability!
Public safety is the duty of the police yet we are paying for this twice over.
No wonder they have police helicopters and fast cars!
if you are paying for the firearms report, it is not covered by the NHS and YOU ARE getting it on a private basis. as my brother in law pointed out to his GP when they delayed.... he had paid for a service and they were obliged to deliver it promptly as they were contractually obliged to do so as they had said they would.
FWIW I have just checked my recent GP report, it does not require the doctor to express opinions, it asks for confirmation whether the medical records contain history of certain matters to which they tick yes or no. There is provision thereafter for the GP to raise any other matters of concern, not entirely what this would be, but it relates to mediacla or physical conditions/or combinations of conditions which may affect the safe possession of firearms or shotguns, and space to expand on any treatments or concerns.
So I dropped off the forms to my surgery having ascertained my GP is happy to attend to them.
6 weeks later I have heard nothing inspite of me chasing it last week and being assured he will do it.
This is now holding up my renewal and time is passing.
I will message them again but I will also email licensing to let them know I am trying to renew but being held back thru no fault of mine.
And probably too late to go through shooters cert now if I have to deal with surgery again to get my med records.
I dont really have any medical history either.
I will ask licensing if I can send in the paper forms pending GP report.
This is something I can do with out!
6 weeks later I have heard nothing inspite of me chasing it last week and being assured he will do it.
This is now holding up my renewal and time is passing.
I will message them again but I will also email licensing to let them know I am trying to renew but being held back thru no fault of mine.
And probably too late to go through shooters cert now if I have to deal with surgery again to get my med records.
I dont really have any medical history either.
I will ask licensing if I can send in the paper forms pending GP report.
This is something I can do with out!
kennyc
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I have just used shootcert, it has taken a couple of weeks as at first my surgery wanted to charge to supply the records ! shootcert sorted it out and I have just uploaded the renewal, not free (at £90) but to be honest not so bad in this day and age
Bavarianbrit
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I am redoing my SGC and the reference section now asks for their D.O.B. That's a new one on me as with the data protection act they should not have to tell me that IMO.
Stalker62
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GDPR establishes a clear distinction between sensitive personal data and non-sensitive personal data. Examples of non-sensitive data would include gender, date of birth, place of birth and postcode.
Bavarianbrit
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It seems to be a newly made up add on to me.
Stalker62
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It may be. It is however, still not sensitive data.
baguio
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Why would there be a marker on your medical files that you're a Firearms certificate holder? The police already know that information. I don't understand what you're say, that's all.
Stalker62
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Part of this whole process, it to get the Medics involved, by completing the 'tick box' questions from the Police and by adding a 'marker' to your medical files.
That 'marker' is to alert/remind the Medics, that you own firearms - so that they can then act accordingly, if and when, the patient presents with issues that would affect their possession/ownership of firearms.
tim@tcs
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This is being resisted by the BMA, but as GP’s tend not to strike it’s a difficult fight for them. They simply don’t want any liability in case it goes wrong!
Mind you the amount of “mentally unwell” people who murder with knives doesn’t seem to make a jot of difference to the dead!
baguio
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Thank you. I'm surprised that that is even legal. Treat me as a person. Not what I do for a living or what I do in my spare time.
I wonder if that marker would be put on my records?
Stalker62
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I do not think it is anything sinister.
It is just trying to prevent the next tragedy.
If I became dependant on alcohol, or drugs, or became mentally unwell, I would hope and expect, that those near to me, would pick up the phone and let the Police know.
Personally, I have no issues with it.
baguio
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Absolutely. And long before a Dr who doesn't know me very well flags it up with the police. IMO, this is one case of Big brother that really could put someone off from seeking medical help when a little bit of help from the Dr could really positive benefits.
Stalker62
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I think this is one of the 'unintended consequences' and has been touched on before.
I simply do not have the solution for this very real issue.
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