Definitely not a waste. Our Working Mens club made more money closed than when it open prior to Covid.
Thank you Rwanda and just keep the change
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big ears
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And that it was a crap idea that would never work
You didn't hear the interviews in the French camps then.
I say fence off Gruinard island & send em' there.
big ears
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I say process them and keep the ones with the skills we need to support our economy.
You mean the handful then?
in my opinion you are incorrect. We need a disincentive to entering the UK illegally. The prospect of being put on a plane to Rwanda had illegal immigrants travelling to Ireland and was starting to stop them crossing the channel.Which looney bin you been let out of?
Starting to work?
£300million and four people bribed with £2000 each to go and a guarantee we will foot the bill to support them for next five years.
Small boats at record high this year.
Yep sounds like it really worked to me.
Time to go to specsavers and change those rose tinted glasses for real ones.
Rwanda was all about pampering to the extreme right wing supporters of the split Conservative Party.
It’s failed and cost us a huge amount.
It wound never have worked.
£300million could have bought a shed load of hips and knee surgery which would have helped people in this country got them back to work and off the waiting list.
BE
Nothing else will work because they are not scared of the authorities in the slightest and there is no risk to coming to the UK.
Legal immigrants that go through the correct channels of entry should be welcomed btw.
Rwanda plan: Ireland 'won't provide loophole', says taoiseach
Taoiseach says the migration policies of other countries can't be allowed to undermine those of Ireland.
www.bbc.co.uk
big ears
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Yes but at least I’m not throwing the baby out with the bath water.
We need migration to fill the gap that we cannot fill from our workforce. In particular in Agriculture, health and social care and the hospitality sector.
All areas we need to sort that the last lot ignored.
big ears
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OK so what are the exact numbers of illegals vs legals in last 12 months?in my opinion you are incorrect. We need a disincentive to entering the UK illegally. The prospect of being put on a plane to Rwanda had illegal immigrants travelling to Ireland and was starting to stop them crossing the channel.
Nothing else will work because they are not scared of the authorities in the slightest and there is no risk to coming to the UK.
Legal immigrants that go through the correct channels of entry should be welcomed btw.
Rwanda plan: Ireland 'won't provide loophole', says taoiseach
Taoiseach says the migration policies of other countries can't be allowed to undermine those of Ireland.
Biggish sized baby.
big ears
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Not really. Illegal migrants made up less than 7% of all immigration last year. In real terms about 52,000.
A lot of hot air and prejudice has been expanded on a small number.
As I say I suited the conservatives as it deflected away from the real crap of a failing economy. That and it pampered to their right wing which they were scared of.
shakey jake
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what are the legal channels for migrant/refugees?in my opinion you are incorrect. We need a disincentive to entering the UK illegally. The prospect of being put on a plane to Rwanda had illegal immigrants travelling to Ireland and was starting to stop them crossing the channel.
Nothing else will work because they are not scared of the authorities in the slightest and there is no risk to coming to the UK.
Legal immigrants that go through the correct channels of entry should be welcomed btw.
Rwanda plan: Ireland 'won't provide loophole', says taoiseach
Taoiseach says the migration policies of other countries can't be allowed to undermine those of Ireland.
UK Visas and Immigration
UK Visas and Immigration (UKVI) is responsible for making millions of decisions every year about who has the right to visit or stay in the country, with a firm emphasis on national security and a culture of customer satisfaction for people who come here legally. UKVI is part of the Home Office .
shakey jake
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I cant see where that says the legal entry routes.UK Visas and Immigration
UK Visas and Immigration (UKVI) is responsible for making millions of decisions every year about who has the right to visit or stay in the country, with a firm emphasis on national security and a culture of customer satisfaction for people who come here legally. UKVI is part of the Home Office .www.gov.uk
I thought as you were happy with legal entry route you would know them?
any visa is a legal way to live and work in the uk. they just need to apply.
all figures are relative... was the Rwanda plan a waste - well it can be argued both ways... did it stop anyone coming by just being in place... no one can quantify that.... was it expensive? 240 million quid is a fortune to me, but in government terms its not even a half days cost of the NHS (21 million per hour)
Half of my family have worked abroad at some point, but they worked paid whatever taxes they were owing, had visas etc and all above board and obeyed the laws of the country they were in.
I do not appreciate all of the changes to this country during my lifetime. In that time the population (during a time of a reducing birthrate) has increased by about 50% (46 million odd in the 1961 census to 68 million now). the infrastructure in the number of GP's Dentists and school has not risen by the same amount
Half of my family have worked abroad at some point, but they worked paid whatever taxes they were owing, had visas etc and all above board and obeyed the laws of the country they were in.
I do not appreciate all of the changes to this country during my lifetime. In that time the population (during a time of a reducing birthrate) has increased by about 50% (46 million odd in the 1961 census to 68 million now). the infrastructure in the number of GP's Dentists and school has not risen by the same amount
Nickb
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I don't call 52000 a small number , 52000 too many.
Not prejudice they are here illegally ffs
Personally I thought it was a kooky idea that smacked of desperation. Whether the new government will be able to have any effect after poo poohing the old governments efforts is another matter. Time will tell I guess. Whatever, obviously not an easily solved problem.
UK's Rwanda plan: Which other nations send asylum seekers abroad? | Context
Britain's parliament has approved Rishi Sunak's plan to deport asylum seekers to Rwanda, which he wants to launch by July
www.context.news
processing illegal immigrants overseas is a good way of dealing with the issue
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