Matching lure weight to rod

[Mungo]

Have a look at Glasgow angling centre they seem to have a large range and some good deals .

They do.

That’s where I bought the rod I want to replicate. They don’t have it or anything like it.

 

[Longstrider]

Talk to this man... D.L. Specialist Tackle - Rods

If Dave can't make what you want I doubt anyone can

 

[Mungo]

Talk to this man... D.L. Specialist Tackle - Rods

If Dave can't make what you want I doubt anyone can

Looks superb, but I’m really hoping to avoid paying more than about £100.

The Abu Diplomat I have was only £65 and is superb.

To be honest, I can’t justify paying much for mackerel rods. They get used for 6 weeks a year, horribly abused, and usually broken within 5 years.

For a long time, Shakespeare did 11-12” rods that were cheap and perfect for the role.

 

[Essexsussex]

Unless you need the extra length for lifting away from snags I’d be inclined to go for 9ft where there is loads of availability.

This in 10-50gr is a robust rod in the right weight and pice range. They are actually quite nicely designed, lightweight and balanced. I keep several on my boat in 7ft

 

[Essexsussex]

Unless you need the extra length for lifting away from snags I’d be inclined to go for 9ft where there is loads of availability.

This in 10-50gr is a robust rod in the right weight and pice range. They are actually quite nicely designed, lightweight and balanced. I keep several on my boat in 7ft

Oops Shimano Vengeance CX Sea Bass-7ft-7-35g

 

[Mungo]

Unless you need the extra length for lifting away from snags I’d be inclined to go for 9ft where there is loads of availability.

This in 10-50gr is a robust rod in the right weight and pice range. They are actually quite nicely designed, lightweight and balanced. I keep several on my boat in 7ft

So lifting away from snags is precisely why I want the extra length.

I fished for years in the same location with a 9”, and it was completely transformational switching to an 11”6’ rod.

Really brought home to me at the weekend. Two of us fishing, one with a 9’ rod, me with the longer rod. I landed 4, including two good cod. He hooked 6/7 times and lost every one.

 

[Pelyma]

Go lighter and just don't give it too much oomph when casting bigger weights.

 

[Mungo]

Go lighter and just don't give it too much oomph when casting bigger weights.

When you say lighter, do you mean lighter rod or lighter lures?

 

[bbrc]

maybe an option?

Daiwa Hard Rock Fishing - HRF1062MH-BU - Veals Mail Order

Daiwa Hard Rock Fishing - HRF1062MH-BU Length 10' 6'' Casting 15-50gm 2 Sections Premium Grade Carbon Blank Aluminium Oxide Ceramic Guides DPS Reel Seat With CC Hoods EVA Grips Weight 187gm

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[rigboot]

A 100 gram lure is huge and I think you are right, a rod rated to cast up to 100g will be a broomstick.

I have an HTO Glide Walker 10 - 42 g which is a really nice little rod and fine for bass, salmon and general spinning- would reccomend!

You should easily be able to find a rod with a similar rating however it will probably be shorter than the Abu Diplomat.

Glasgow Angling Centre has tons in stock.

I was very really surprised at the Glide Walkers performance, and price point.

I used it as a rough n tumble truck rod, generally casting for casting Savage Gear line thru sandeels (11-27g ) and the.big seekers way into the far beyond, normally paired with a penn slammer IV 3500 and 22 lbs braid.

My fishing is mostly Salmon and Seatrout ( salt water included for STs) with occasional Bass/Saithe/Macks etc too. and this rod has plenty backbone to fight decent fish, but also has some feel

I do own much higher end spinning rods for specific uses, (High water - Devon minnow - big river ; upstream single worming ; flipping a mepps etc) but tbh, as an all-rounder, the Glide Walker is brilliant

 

[bbrc]

I'm no expert but have read that if you had a barbel/carp rod the test curve times by 28 grams is roughly the maximum casting weight so a 1.75 lb test curve barbel rod would cast a max of 1.75 x 28= 49 gram max casting weight.
Please read up yourself but there are Loads of 11' to 12' 1.75-2lb barbel or carp rods for as little as £35 on a quick search

Sonik Specialist Barbel Fishing Rods

Key Features Sonik Specialist Barbel Fishing Rods High modulus carbon blanks Powerful butt sections with sensitive tip Built in isotope inserts Full slim cork handles Screw winch reel seat Low profile SIC lined rings suitable for braid and mono

www.anglingdirect.co.uk

 

[Hambone]

Might be worth looking at a light carp or barbel rod, I chuck small lures on mine.

 

[Fowler1990]

I need to replace a spinning rod. I had been using an 11’6” Abu Diplomat 28-40gr, which was absolutely perfect for what I wanted (casting lures a long way off rocks and piers and pulling mackerel and codling up out of snaggy areas).

As usual when you find a perfect rod, by the time you need to replace it, that model is discontinued and there’s nothing on the market that matches it.

I’ve found a few things that sort of match, but the lure weight range is much heavier (30-100gr). I want to stick using 40gr lures (because I have lots of them, and they work really well where I fish).

So - the question is: how will the casting performance of the rod be affected by using a lure at the lower end of the weight range (a 40 gr lure cast from a rod rated 30-100gr)?

A side question: I really enjoy catching mackerel using a single lure and lighter rod. I’m not really interested in winching them in on a broomstick and a strick of feathers. Would a 12’ rod rated 30-100gr be too heavy to really enjoy?

Any opinions/advice very much appreciated.

What sort of lures are you using predominantly?
I would suggest something from savage gear personally. Had all sorts of lure gear and value for money they are excellent.

 

[PMA]

I’ve used carp rods for bass and mackerel usually 2-21/2 lb test curve great fun and the power to handle a largish bass

 

[MAH]

Abu Diplomat 28-40gr

There are a few on ebay.
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[Mungo]

I’ve used carp rods for bass and mackerel usually 2-21/2 lb test curve great fun and the power to handle a largish bass

I’ve never understood what the lb test curve rating means. Would you mind explaining?

 

[Mungo]

What sort of lures are you using predominantly?
I would suggest something from savage gear personally. Had all sorts of lure gear and value for money they are excellent.

Just simple metal casting wedge type things

 

[Mungo]

I'm no expert but have read that if you had a barbel/carp rod the test curve times by 28 grams is roughly the maximum casting weight so a 1.75 lb test curve barbel rod would cast a max of 1.75 x 28= 49 gram max casting weight.
Please read up yourself but there are Loads of 11' to 12' 1.75-2lb barbel or carp rods for as little as £35 on a quick search

Sonik Specialist Barbel Fishing Rods

Key Features Sonik Specialist Barbel Fishing Rods High modulus carbon blanks Powerful butt sections with sensitive tip Built in isotope inserts Full slim cork handles Screw winch reel seat Low profile SIC lined rings suitable for braid and mono

www.anglingdirect.co.uk

That’s extremely useful - thank you

 

[dillieboy]

I need to replace a spinning rod. I had been using an 11’6” Abu Diplomat 28-40gr, which was absolutely perfect for what I wanted (casting lures a long way off rocks and piers and pulling mackerel and codling up out of snaggy areas).

As usual when you find a perfect rod, by the time you need to replace it, that model is discontinued and there’s nothing on the market that matches it.

I’ve found a few things that sort of match, but the lure weight range is much heavier (30-100gr). I want to stick using 40gr lures (because I have lots of them, and they work really well where I fish).

So - the question is: how will the casting performance of the rod be affected by using a lure at the lower end of the weight range (a 40 gr lure cast from a rod rated 30-100gr)?

A side question: I really enjoy catching mackerel using a single lure and lighter rod. I’m not really interested in winching them in on a broomstick and a strick of feathers. Would a 12’ rod rated 30-100gr be too heavy to really enjoy?

Any opinions/advice very much appreciated.

Pardon our interruption...

This is a great rod in your weight range

 

[PMA]

I’ve never understood what the lb test curve rating means. Would you mind explaining?

Put simply, test curve is the weight required to bring the tip of the rod to a 90-degree angle to the butt while the butt is held horizontally.