Quad winch
- Thread starter ColinBr
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Lol I wasn't suggesting the full 100yds just the difficult bits
Have you got out of the bed the wrong way today?
jthyttin
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No, but the technical abilities and understanding of forum members varies a lot. Every once in a while somebody gets the idea of retrieving deer with tools that are not suitable for the job. They might even have bought the winches etc. only to find out the shortcomings. So it's good to have relevant info on the threads.
Tirfor type winches (or should they be called hoists, since usually they're also rated for lifting?) are good for some tasks and enable continuous pull only limited by the length of steel rope. But they're hopelessly slow for long drags.
Once upon a time I built a centre mounted pto winch into a 90. The idea came from an IBEX vehicle and so it could pull forwards and backwards.
With it being pto driven, and with the transfer box set in neutral, it meant the winch had four gears and reverse. You had to know what you were doing but that thing could pull from slow and controlled, to very fast line speeds, as long as the engine ran. I could easily pull substantial trees for firewood, or two vehicles at a time with it if suitably anchored.
Horses for courses but whatever you choose will have penalties and compromises.
Electric winches are ok for short bursts and just for example, 10 metres to a small electric winch is a long way.
With it being pto driven, and with the transfer box set in neutral, it meant the winch had four gears and reverse. You had to know what you were doing but that thing could pull from slow and controlled, to very fast line speeds, as long as the engine ran. I could easily pull substantial trees for firewood, or two vehicles at a time with it if suitably anchored.
Horses for courses but whatever you choose will have penalties and compromises.
Electric winches are ok for short bursts and just for example, 10 metres to a small electric winch is a long way.
Jameshenry
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Get yourself a petrol capstan winch
An ex Desert Rat Tank mechanic built an 8 leg Foden into a recovery unit using a Scammel belly winch with 1" laid cable
x 3 snatch pully's which were lifted with hydraulic rams as they were so heavy. The cable had to be run out with a small tractor or swb land rover with any snatch block work.
In it's hay day it was like a new pin, sadly after he died it ended up like this in the picture of the smaller one, I did help out his son on a few jobs and used him a couple of times later in life when recovering "goods & chattels" for the courts.
Jagare
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I have a winch on the front and the back of my Honda Foreman. In reality your quite limited with what you can winch out with the quad . I have used them for extracting the quad when I have got it stuck out in the forest. The back winch is mounted on the back rack and is handy for loading boar on to the trailer but I would not want to overload it or try pulling anything to heavy. If I was extracting reds over any distance I would be looking at a petrol capstan winch.
ColinBr
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Yes I've come to the conclusion that the winch will be used for hopefully getting unstuck with the quad, and a capstan winch will be a more realistic option.
Over the years you’ve posted quite a few interesting photos, I’d love to come and look around your “yard” and see all the goodies, many I’ll bet from past times.
Willowbank.
Freeforester
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A good length of rope and a pulley with suitable ground anchor should be on the recovery quad/vehicle.Capstan winch is another option.
I wonder if anyone has managed to adapt/shift a Maasdam/Vevor rope winch pulley on to a winch motor?
I do remember (all too vividly!) putting a short rope over my shoulders and attaching it to alternate front and rear legs of a stag someone else had shot and left in a heartbreaking spot, which entailed the hapless ‘laddie’ lifting the slain beast equal to his own weight by the alternate free legs a step at a time uphill some 100 plus metres of ‘straight’ ground to the top of some 900m high plateau ground and the waiting quad in Easter Ross more than 30 years ago; ‘character-building’ rather than ‘team-building’. My interest in these matters remains undiminished!
Update. Had a think about it, and decided to swap out the steel for synthetic. Turns out I had 10m of 6mm wire cable, and I managed to fit 15m of 5mm synthetic onto the drum
sparrow123
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Evening what cc is your klf?I recently fitted a Rhino 3000kg to the front of my KLF. Simplicity itself, although I did need to fit a mounting plate. Easy enough though. You might struggle with 100m though? I think mine holds around 10m of 5mm steel cable. You'd maybe get more on the same drum with synthetic rope though
And if you have oversize tyres on the front you may find it fouls. Mine did, so I had to revert to stock sizes
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It's a 300
sparrow123
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Are they any good ?It's a 300
I use mine mostly around the farm. Pulls a harrow, sprays my couple acre pasture, and is surprisingly capable offroad. It could do with a wee bit more low end torque, but a big bore kit would probably sort that. It's only a 300 after all. Mine's the 2x4, and to be honest I reckon it's the better option as the 4x4 is permanent and makes the steering pretty tricky. The lockable rear diff' on mine has got me out of some seriously sticky stuff in the past. Obviously not as capable as newer quads, but then they're a damn sight cheaper, less to go wrong, and parts are cheap. Apart from the exhaust!!!
sparrow123
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Quads have gone stupid money since pepole want to were balaclava’s fit big swomper tyres and ride them all over the place
countrryboy
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I think thats the right decision.
12v winches heat up to quick on long constant pulls which would also seriously drain ur battery.
Apologies if ive missed it.
But wot type of ground is it?
Can u almost always get ur quad within 100m or so off the deer?
Im assuming so if ur quad winch idea was too work
It might be possible to use ur quad to drag the deer on a long rope and no need for a capstan.
Id just buy 100m of low strech rope, ( u might fi d bull rope or rigging rope cheaper from arb sites) and a few snatch blocks.
With a bit off imagination u can do all sorts with a few blocks to redirect or raise pulls .if u have pkenty of trees for anchors/redirect points.
U could set 1 on a 2nd short rope and hoist up a tree to try and minimise drag etc.
U could drive ur bike at 90 along the top off a banki ng to pull a deer up it.
Wot ever u use rope management will be key.
Dealing with 100m of rope can be a real pain.
1 of easiest ways can be to buy a plastic tub ( like u get for small pheasant feeders) and litereally just feed the rope into it. Easier than it sounds and rope comes out nice and straight.
Far easier than trying to coil 100m
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