Wanted: Wanted- experienced metal detectorist.

[Triggermortis]

Having dipped my toe into the world of metal detecting I’ve realised I needed to upgrade the detector I bought and to source some tuition, to that end my wife has bought me a Deus 2 with all the accessories so that leaves me looking for someone local to kent with enough experience to guide me in setting it up and using it properly, anyone local fancy joining me for some days out on my permissions puppy walking me ?, happy for you to use your own gear in between keeping an eye on me.
Fish and chips is of course on me.
Pls PM me and I’ll be in touch.
Cheers
Triggermortis

 

[Marchman]

Not sure if these two are near you to help out.
Sorry. Silly joke but a great series if you haven't seen it.

 

[finnbear270]

Go on here & you will get sorted.

 

[Cottis]

I have used the original Deus for the last decade.

I am not familiar with the Deus 2 but all metal detectors are similar in that they need time.

I use full tones, mid range reactivty and no descrimination. I work on the basis of using the machine in the most stripped back way to ensure the electronics are not masking targets that potentially could be good. I prefer my ear to hear iron rather than the machine detect it and silence it. Yes you can use the various modes and if you go over something that is relatively shallow and oriented in a way that realises good ID, you will pick it up no issue but it is the myriad of weirdly oriented targets at further depths that sort the good from the average.

The Deus works on a conductivity scale from 0-100. Using full tones, zero is a very low dull grunt and 100 would be an ear splitting high pitched tone. And then everything else inbetween on a sliding scale. The best way to learn the scale is to use these settings in conjunction with the display on the machine. That will give you the numbers and will help you associate different tones with approximate types of metals. It is never the B all and end all though. You will sometimes get tones you think are decent but the display will offer no number or will get confused. Always go with the tones and your gut feeling.

Metal detecting is a numbers game whereby you are simply looking to tell the difference between ferrous and non ferrous metals, so that you can basically ignore the ferrous signals and dig everything else. 99% of non ferrous stuff is crap but the 1% is worth it.

So obvious low grunts without any hint of sharpness on the tone, will be iron and should be ignored. You also get certain items which show up close to foil type numbers but it will be coke. 27 is normally coke and very rarely anything else. Hammered coins will be around low 60's and up depending on depth and size. Milled Silver is normally 80 plus on a similar scale to lead.

No idea if the Deus 2 is similar in its setup or not. I know it is a multi band machine like the Minelabs but it probably has a similar interface and user platform as the OG machine, as XP users will appreciate similar interfaces in the same way that Apple or Android phone users will.

I am not local or I would visit you and give you a hand but generally it takes a few dozen hours with a machine to really get to grips with it. To start with, work on the basis that any obviously low tone that is accompanied by a consistent low number (below 10) will be iron and should be ignored. Most will be 1 or 2 or 3 and stuff like that. Anything that is obviously high pitched and clean noise without any hiss or grunts to the edge of the tone will be non ferrous and should be dug up. It is all the stuff inbetween that an experienced ear can hear. A small cut quarter for example that is at a depth that is close to the limit of the machine, might give the tiniest little buzz with an almost iron like quiet rasp to it but because it will be an inbetween signal, it should be dug up. Over time you learn what speeds of sweep will realise certain types of tones relative to item material and depth.

Best of luck. They are great machines and there is plenty of stuff out that to find. I found so much good stuff and learned so much about history.

 

[Triggermortis]

Cheers Cottis,
Apparently the Deus 2 has settings that are idiot proof( which I need) and it can be set to virtually filter out most of the confusing signals you might get from older machines, I probably need most of the help in getting the best out of it when detecting in difficult ground conditions.

 

[finnbear270]

Loads of Kent members on the site I posted.
Sub Sections on all makes of machines & settings etc.

 

[Cottis]

Cheers Cottis,
Apparently the Deus 2 has settings that are idiot proof( which I need) and it can be set to virtually filter out most of the confusing signals you might get from older machines, I probably need most of the help in getting the best out of it when detecting in difficult ground conditions.

What are your difficult ground conditions? Mineralisation or very trashy?

 

[finnbear270]

General consensus is, if your machine has "Numbers" as an indication as to dig or not dig, IGNORE, train your ears.

 

[Triggermortis]

Thankyou finnbear, I’ve registered to join that site.

 

[Triggermortis]

Can be both or inbetween, I do have ground that opens up cracks big enough to step into which close up in the winter and turns to a clay slurry.

 

[Cottis]

Can be both or inbetween, I do have ground that opens up cracks big enough to step into which close up in the winter and turns to a clay slurry.

Highly mineralised ground is a pain but it should be much less of a problem with the Deus 2 as it is a muti frequency machine. Look up on Youtube how to ground balance the machine but I would have thought it has auto ground balance which basically does it as you move over ground. It constantly reads the ground and alters the ground balance to match the mineralisation of the ground.

If you are searching ground that has lots of rubbish or junk or even tons of desirable metals, then increasing reactivity will help and also slowing down your sweep speed so the machine can "see" inbetween" each target. If you think about putting 10 coins next to each other with a 1 inch gap in between each one and sweep the coil over them quickly, the machine might not be quick enough to give 10 instant beeps or signals for each coin. You can test this at home in the garden by putting whatever metals on the ground and running the coil over it whilst on different settings to see how it performs. Every so often you will find some land that is simply too full of crap. It is rare though. The Deus can cope with very noisy ground.

What condition the ground is in will have a significant impact on easy it is to detect. The best ground is either pasture that has not been disturbed for a long time (although some people hate digging it as they liken it to concrete) or arable land that has been ploughed, then harrowed/disced and rolled. It can pay to let it rain a bit and for the ground to settle, as you can pockets of air and a fluffy sort of soil that makes it harder for the machine. Freshly ploughed land is not worth it in my view. You just end up breaking your ankles and the machine is going to struggle. Better to look for land that is flat and easier to swing over. I also hate stubbles. You just constantly bash the machine in to them and it is annoying.

This is a good time of year to detect pasture as livestock is often inside and the wet ground is easier to dig but bloody messy. Good luck.

 

[Flash G 74]

Hello, Shame your so far as been detecting many many years, Is there not a local club you could join ?? Although not familiar with the Deus the high end detectors are much the same, My best was the Minelab Safari and i rate multi frequency, On digs i found stuff deeper than many others could do, But saying all this most detectors will find if your in the right place, I still have a detector but getting on a bit so only do a few summer days,

 

[Triggermortis]

I have managed to contact a prominent member of a local/regional club who has kindly offered to spend a morning out with me on my permissions(which have never been detected) to set up the detector and get me started but so far rain has stopped play, I’m hoping we can meet up this Sunday, I’ve arranged for a ferreting team to spend a day on one of my permissions so while I let them get on with that I’ll be taking some detecting lessons.

 

[Flash G 74]

I have managed to contact a prominent member of a local/regional club who has kindly offered to spend a morning out with me on my permissions(which have never been detected) to set up the detector and get me started but so far rain has stopped play, I’m hoping we can meet up this Sunday, I’ve arranged for a ferreting team to spend a day on one of my permissions so while I let them get on with that I’ll be taking some detecting lessons.

Hello, Well done, I find metal detectors do better in damp soil , Also you can research the land on the Internet for old maps etc, there is a book on reading land, Books on different finds, and a yearly coin book, Some of my finds are in local Museum , It is always a heart stop when you get a good sound through your head phones, The oldest item i found was a coat toggle but not detecting, was just laying on the surface of the field, so it is not always in the ground you can spot good finds

 

[Triggermortis]

Evening Flash,
Thanks for the pointers buddy, I have a sneaky feeling that although the wife let me have my detector before Xmas I may well have a book or two to open on Xmas day.
The first place I’m going on Sunday has a known connection with the handmade brick industry in Victorian times in that it is where the clay was taken from then returned to farming use ,some though is ancient woodland, not sure what it’s going to be like detecting in the woods?
Cheers
Triggermortis

 

[finnbear270]

Mustn't forget to have permission, if the ground is owned by someone else.

 

[Flash G 74]

Evening Flash,
Thanks for the pointers buddy, I have a sneaky feeling that although the wife let me have my detector before Xmas I may well have a book or two to open on Xmas day.
The first place I’m going on Sunday has a known connection with the handmade brick industry in Victorian times in that it is where the clay was taken from then returned to farming use ,some though is ancient woodland, not sure what it’s going to be like detecting in the woods?
Cheers
Triggermortis

Hello, That is a good starter, Not familiar with Deus detectors but if it has basic setting like the Safari that is a good starter, once you understand all the controls then you can make your own programmes

 

[Triggermortis]

Well, went out today for a session with the new toy, nothing spectacular found but we did get it set up and working, we found a load of junk, a pistol and a lead seal so not a waste of time and effort

 

[Tugmanade]

How long d’you reckon before you have the pistol up & running

 

[Tazz]

Having dipped my toe into the world of metal detecting I’ve realised I needed to upgrade the detector I bought and to source some tuition, to that end my wife has bought me a Deus 2 with all the accessories so that leaves me looking for someone local to kent with enough experience to guide me in setting it up and using it properly, anyone local fancy joining me for some days out on my permissions puppy walking me ?, happy for you to use your own gear in between keeping an eye on me.
Fish and chips is of course on me.
Pls PM me and I’ll be in touch.
Cheers
Triggermortis

Try and go with someone experienced/qualified so you get a badge and a certificate or it’s effort wasted