Rake Aboot
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Bloody 14 yr old bollocks at that ! 
For those who worry about where their taxes are spent
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Heym SR20
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We seem to have forgotten that a couple of millennia ago, even just a couple of centuries ago there were very large numbers of big grass eating ungulates roaming the planet in large herds all farting like mad.
Just think of the American Bison herds or African elephant and buffalo herds which were shot out almost within living memory, and certainly within our grandparents memory. Not that long ago in Europe we had Aurochs and European Bison in large numbers.
Just think of the American Bison herds or African elephant and buffalo herds which were shot out almost within living memory, and certainly within our grandparents memory. Not that long ago in Europe we had Aurochs and European Bison in large numbers.
How dare you bring up such methane brewing history.
Bavarianbrit
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So to save the planet we all need to close the Friday night curry shops?
Bill.Stickers
Active Member
I'm so relieved, there was I taking heed of actual scientific research when all I had to do was read such wisdom. Thank you so much.
I'm surprised more people aren't in favour of this - after all it is another dimension that's supportive of deer management.
2 or 3 years ago, there was a chap locally looking into the effects of the high population of fallow on pasture. The grazing pressure resulting in loss of soil organic matter and causing farmers to compensate with more fertiliser. These would be significant locally for carbon emissions but, setting that aspect aside, both would be pretty undesirable effects. So if there's a flag that relates to all of this, I say wave it.
2 or 3 years ago, there was a chap locally looking into the effects of the high population of fallow on pasture. The grazing pressure resulting in loss of soil organic matter and causing farmers to compensate with more fertiliser. These would be significant locally for carbon emissions but, setting that aspect aside, both would be pretty undesirable effects. So if there's a flag that relates to all of this, I say wave it.
You are welcome, reading one sided “evidence” does not make a fact.
sikamalc
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This is an old thread resurrected. Still laughable in my opinion.
One wonders what the omissions were like hundreds of thousands of years ago, when huge plant eating dinosaurs walked the face of the earth, trampling down the undergrowth, eating valuable plants and trees, piles of dung you could place a flag on, farting and blowing out more omissions than a V8 engine in a lifetime, not to mention the constant volcanic activity. The green house gases must have been off the scale. And yet somehow, here we are now.
One wonders what the omissions were like hundreds of thousands of years ago, when huge plant eating dinosaurs walked the face of the earth, trampling down the undergrowth, eating valuable plants and trees, piles of dung you could place a flag on, farting and blowing out more omissions than a V8 engine in a lifetime, not to mention the constant volcanic activity. The green house gases must have been off the scale. And yet somehow, here we are now.
And a welcome one too - it was a thread ahead of its time (well, ahead for the deer world anyway).
It's well overdue to bring the thinking and language in the deer world ahead a few decades and into line with that for land managers in agriculture, natural environment and forestry.
Set the direct methane emissions aside, which are mainly relevant to rapidly increasing high populations. The relationship between high deer populations/densities and carbon extends in many different directions and using the interaction with carbon as a way of thinking about deer effects, rather than in terms of climate change, is very helpful to see what costs high numbers of deer expose us to financially and in terms of the natural environment, agrochemical use, materials & mineral resources.
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