Lee-loading, it was called when working out the forces in roof trusses, AKA suction.When the wind comes over that hill it will speed up as it comes (hugging the ground) down your side
Out last night.
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Mr Tree
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Ken, did you get hold of any Berger 22408? Can spare another 100 if you need them?When the wind comes over that hill it will speed up as it comes (hugging the ground) down your side
Phil fox man
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rain stops play
that's all there is to say.
that's all there is to say.
I know shooting at these ranges is going to be controversial, all I can say is I shoot 1000s of rounds a year at hardox steel and paper targets, at various ranges out to 800m. When I take the shot I am condident in my preparation. I have been reloading for over 10yrs and all my long range rounds are built to give consistant results. I live in an area where a lot of the fox control is done across valleys and 300m plus shots are common place. This last Wednesday night I went out foxing with my .204, .308, and my Hik Gryphon thermal spotter. I would normally take my .243 with 75grn vmax, longest fox kill 468m.
However I have been working on loads for the .308 for the last few months, the recent calm weather has allowed me to fine tune the .308 load for 178grn ELDX and the balistic calculator in the Alpex LRF, both are now working well. I have to say, I had every intention of taking a long shot with the .308 if it presented. That is if I failed to close the distance or failed to call a fox in.
I had not seen anything for two hours on the first two permissions.
I went to the third, a large basin type area with rising ground on 3 sides, made up of a mixture of huge arable and large flat pasture.
The ground is generally not accessible to anything other than a quad or gator type vehicle at this time of year. It was a clear night with very light wind I estimated to be <4mph.
This night I parked up facing my preferred fields. I saw a fox at 520m, I set up on the top of my pickup, by the time I got sorted it had disappeared. I saw another fox come in and start chewing on what turned out to be a dead Tup, at 480m.This fox would not come to a call and closing the distance and getting into a shootable position, was not possible, due to the topography.
I loaded, ranged and took the shot, I missed the fox ran off slightly left of stright and stopped at 586m.
I decided I had over estimated the wind speed at 4mph, as I was confident of the range.
Strelok pro was telling me 12 inches into wind at 4mph.
So I ranged, adjusted 4 inches into wind, a fraction right of the chest with the fox looking stright at me.
I was sure the range was right pulled the trigger, result dead fox.m
The .308 with 178grn ELDx and Alpex HD LRF
are going to prove to be a very effective combination.
I know I'm probably going to get flack for posting this. I will respond, when I have time, to any reasonable, well argued criticism.
Sorry if the post is a bit too long.
Bo Diddley
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I hope you don't.
Hat's off to you, you seem to be on top of your game from what you say, using all the tools in the box to achieve results.
I think some people gripe when they imagine folks are taking an odd long-range shot well out of their comfort zone.
Enjoy your shooting.
Len the dog
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He still missed though due to an error in calculation, that was only a clean miss through sheer luck, it could just as easily have been a wounded animal.
Bo Diddley
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Correct.
My average shot is 130 yards, a long one for me is usually 195 off sticks, I hate the thought of wounding. I'm in sleepy Norfolk, fairly small fields mostly.
The only item to add in to calcs & stuff is, if you are increasingly going out further, time of flight comes into play, a very relaxed or occupied fox is OK, but I can remember many misses inside 300 yards due to a split second side step by the intended recipient.
Bo Diddley
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You know when it's a long shot if you have to take the curvature of the Earth into account 
You know when it's a long shot if you have to take the curvature of the Earth into account
And not forgetting Coriolis.
Bo Diddley
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Every day is a school day.. thanks for that one, I had to Google it, but I'm now a wiser man
Every day is a school day.. thanks for that one, I had to Google it, but I'm now a wiser man
Don't ask for an in depth explanation though.
Foxyboy43
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Simple really….
Coriolis force - Wikipedia
I did hope someone would dive in with something like that.
Much better if your fox was sitting on the Equator.
Much better if your fox was sitting on the Equator.
Got about halfway through, bit early in the day for me!
Bo Diddley
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No need to worry if shooting the .22 HornetGot about halfway through, bit early in the day for me!
Reminds me of "Lock time", instead of time of flight.
Smelly will prolly explain for those too young to know what it means.
Being a smokepole user.
Smelly will prolly explain for those too young to know what it means.
Being a smokepole user.
My Hawken has quite a long throw hammer, it goes tick-pop-BOOM!Reminds me of "Lock time", instead of time of flight.
Doe's Charlie say "What the f*** was that"?
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